Risto_Saarelma comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 30 June 2013 08:47:07AM 8 points [-]

I thought it was a neat bit of subversion where something that would be a joke speed bump mid-boss in Industry Standard Storytelling ends up straight up killing you instead because things work more like reality here and it's ten times as big as you and made of magic.

Comment author: Ritalin 30 June 2013 11:37:45AM 1 point [-]

If HPMOR ran on Reium rather than Narrativium, I can think of a dozen opportunities for any of the characters to die horribly, not just during the plot but before the plot even begins.

Why did Voldemort keep the Order alive? As Harry said, a wizard with his skillz and creativity isn't a threat, it's an extinction event.

Comment author: elharo 30 June 2013 12:20:41PM 9 points [-]

Yes, but only if he wants it to be an extinction event. I'm reasonably confident that HPMoR Voldemort does not want the same things as canon Voldemort. In fact, I give it at least a 50% probability that "Voldemort" was a false flag operation from the get go to achieve some other goal, e.g. uniting wizard-kind against muggle threats.

Comment author: ikrase 01 July 2013 08:15:10AM 0 points [-]

I think that after getting killed, Voldemort's priorities changed and he's now using it like that.

Comment author: elharo 01 July 2013 10:03:56AM 0 points [-]

The one mystery I don't have even a plausible story for is what really happened Halloween night in Godric's Hollow. There have been multiple clues dropped that the canon story did not happen in this universe, and that what the characters (except Quirrel) think happened, didn't. ("And somewhere in the back of his mind was a small, small note of confusion, a sense of something wrong about that story; and it should have been a part of Harry's art to notice that tiny note, but he was distracted. For it is a sad rule that whenever you are most in need of your art as a rationalist, that is when you are most likely to forget it.")

I suspect that Voldemort did not Avada Kadevra baby Harry, and he probably did not die that night either. I think Riddle/Quirrell/Monroe/whoever was simply done with the Voldemort supervillain persona, and therefore faked "Voldemort's" death. However I have not yet been able to figure out what really did happen. I suspect the clues are there, but so far I haven't been able to notice them or deduce the proper answer from them.