nshepperd comments on Rationality Quotes September 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: nshepperd 04 September 2013 01:44:22AM 1 point [-]

It's one thing to create a weapon that can be used to kill O(100,000) people at once (though, it's not really "at once" if you do it by dropping N bombs consecutively). It's another thing to create a weapon that can only be used to kill O(100,000) people at once.

Or something. Of course, if inventing nukes is evidence humans aren't very moral, the fact that people chose to kill a hundred thousand people in Tokyo with conventional weapons is a different kind of evidence for humans being not very moral.

Comment author: mcallisterjp 04 September 2013 11:29:39AM 6 points [-]

That's not how Big O notation works: O(100,000) = O(1).

You presumably mean "in the order of 100,000", which is sometimes written "~100,000".

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Comment author: Lumifer 04 September 2013 02:01:25AM *  0 points [-]

It's another thing to create a weapon that can only be used to kill O(100,000) people at once.

Clearly a nuke is not that.

evidence for humans being not very moral

Given that both humans and moralities are quite diverse, I don't see any information content in the phrase "humans are not very moral". It's just trivially true and pretty meaningless.

Comment author: DanArmak 04 September 2013 08:22:24AM 1 point [-]

Given that both humans and moralities are quite diverse, I don't see any information content in the phrase "humans are not very moral". It's just trivially true and pretty meaningless.

I agree, and besides I'm not a moral realist. I was originally responding to people in this thread who discussed whether humans could be described as moral.