Risto_Saarelma comments on Open thread for December 17-23, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 19 December 2013 07:27:46AM 20 points [-]

Given that dogfood and catfood work as far as mono-diets go

They mostly seem to, but if they cause a drop in energy or cognitive capability because of some nutrient balance problems, the animals won't become visibly ill and humans are unlikely to notice. A persistent brain fog from eating a poor diet would be quite bad for humans on the other hand.

Comment author: hyporational 20 December 2013 06:20:08AM *  2 points [-]

Most of the selective breeding has been done while these animals were on simple diets, so perhaps some genetic adaptation has happened as well. Besides, aren't carnivore diets quite monotonous in nature anyway?

Comment author: Lumifer 20 December 2013 04:16:16PM *  5 points [-]

Most of the selective breeding has been done while these animals were on simple diets

I am not so sure of that. People have been feeding cats and dogs commercial pet food only for the last 50 years or so and only in wealthy countries. Before that (and in the rest of the world, still) people fed their pets a variety of food that doesn't come from a bag or a can.

aren't carnivore diets quite monotonous in nature anyway?

In terms of what you kill and eat, mostly yes, but in terms of (micro)nutrients prey not only differs, but also each body contains a huge variety (compared to plants).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 December 2013 03:13:43PM 4 points [-]

aren't carnivore diets quite monotonous in nature anyway?

There's probably seasonal variation-- Farley Mowat described wolves eating a lot of mice during the summer when mice are plentiful. Also, I'm pretty sure carnivores eat the stomach contents of their prey-- more seasonal variation. And in temperate-to-cold climates, prey will have the most fat in the fall and the least in the early spring.

It wouldn't surprise me if there's a nutritional variation for dry season/rainy season climates, but I don't know what it would be.