ygert comments on Open thread for December 17-23, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ygert 20 December 2013 09:48:07AM *  2 points [-]

I think the point was government handout programs. This is a massive external control on many people's incomes, and it is part of how the world is not a meritocracy.

(Please note, I ADBOC with CellBioGuy, so don't take my description as anything more than a summary of what I think he is trying to say.)

Comment author: Lumifer 20 December 2013 04:03:53PM 3 points [-]

I ADBDC with CellBioGuy

You what with CellBioGuy..?

Comment author: arundelo 20 December 2013 04:07:19PM 5 points [-]

Should be "ADBOC" -- "agree denotationally, but object connotatively". (ygert is probably thinking of "disagree" instead of "object".)

Comment author: Lumifer 20 December 2013 04:30:26PM 2 points [-]

Ah, thanks. I usually think of such things as "technically correct but misleading" -- that's more or less the same thing, right?

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 20 December 2013 07:51:25PM 0 points [-]

Yes.

Comment author: ygert 21 December 2013 03:38:00PM 0 points [-]

Yes, my mistake. I was in a rush, and didn't have time to double check what the acronym was. Edited now.

Comment author: arundelo 21 December 2013 05:32:28PM 0 points [-]

I think I could make an argument that "object" has a semantic advantage over "disagree" but one advantage is that "adboc" can be pronounced as a two-syllable word.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 December 2013 03:17:05PM 3 points [-]

He might also be saying that most people don't have an obvious path for marginal increases to their income.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 22 December 2013 04:56:19PM 2 points [-]

This is closer to what I was getting at. Above someone mentioned government assistance programs, which is also true to a point but not really what I meant (another 'disagree connotatively').

I was mostly going for the fact that circumstances of birth (family and status not genetics), location, and locked-in life history have far more to do with income than a lot of other factors. And those who make it REALLY big are almost without exception extremely lucky rather than extremely good.