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As a general statement that seems flatly untrue, unless you mean that people in them have (often conflicting) values. Even thinking that for-profit corporations seek to make money for the corporation, rather than for decision-makers, seems like a dangerous mistake.
I am sorry, I'm not going to read an extra-long rumination on a TV series I neither watch nor have any interest in.
Can you provide the argument in a.. condensed form? Preferably without relying on fictional evidence.
You should read it, as least as far as the second image - but the argument says you're talking about legal fictions as if they were people. Here's a random piece of real evidence.
And what's wrong with that?
Organizations and institutions share some characteristics with physical people and do not share others. For example, both organizations and people make decisions. Or, as was mentioned in this thread, respond to incentives.
I think that "having values" is one of those things which can be meaningfully said about both organizations and people. If you don't believe so, can you offer your reasoning?
What could it mean for organizations to have values in a world of mergers and (profitable) bankruptcies? Unless you're reducing it to the values of the people making decisions, or an internal game that constrains them, I don't have the first clue what you believe.
If you want to point out that organizations are not eternal: they come into being, change, and then disappear -- so do people.