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Comment author: Lumifer 26 March 2015 05:49:46PM *  4 points [-]

Historical Jesus

Be careful about distinguishing two very different propositions:

(1) There was a preacher named Jesus of Nazareth who lived in a certain time in a certain place.

(2) Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead and was the Son of God.

Specifically, evidence in favor of (1) usually has nothing to do (2).

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 27 March 2015 01:06:04PM 4 points [-]

That doesn't sound quite right to me, at least if you mean "nothing" literally", given that not-(1) logically implies not-(2).

I think the much smaller posterior probability of (2) than (1) has more to do with the much smaller prior than with the evidence.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 March 2015 02:40:52PM 0 points [-]

A fair point, though "normal" people have a strong tendency to jump from "not-(1) logically implies not-(2)" to "therefore (1) implies (2)".

Comment author: [deleted] 27 March 2015 06:18:05PM 1 point [-]

No worries, I knew what you meant. I am pretty good at logic though, so no need to worry about illogical jumps here. I may not have very much background knowledge about terminology or history or science or anything (yet), and I may not be a very articulate writer (yet), but the one thing I can usually do very well is think clearly. I am even feeling a bit smug after finding the mammography Bayesian reasoning problem that apparently only 15% of doctors get correct to be easy and obvious. :)

Comment author: dxu 27 March 2015 06:10:50PM 0 points [-]

Ah, yes, the ever-popular fallacy of the inverse.