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Comment author: RichardKennaway 21 July 2015 06:25:52PM 4 points [-]

soviet style democracy

Is that the system where everyone can vote, but there's only one candidate?

Comment author: ChristianKl 21 July 2015 06:51:31PM -2 points [-]

No, that's not the meaning of the word soviet. Soviet translates into something like "counsel" in English.

Reducing elections to a single candidate also wouldn't fly legally. You can't just forbid people from being a candidate without producing a legal attack surface.

As I said, it's actually a complex political system that need smart people to set up.

It's like British Democracy also happens to "democracy" where there a queen and the prime minister went to Eton and Oxford and wants to introduce barrier on free communication that are is some way more totalitarian than what the Chinese government dares to do.

Democracy always get's complicated if it comes to the details ;).

Comment author: RichardKennaway 21 July 2015 07:13:52PM 2 points [-]

No, that's not the meaning of the word soviet. Soviet translates into something like "counsel" in English.

In English, "Soviet" is the adjectival form of "USSR".

Never mind the word. What is the actual structure at the Free University of Berlin that you're referring to? And in 1968, did they believe that this was how things were done in the USSR?

Comment author: ChristianKl 21 July 2015 07:51:30PM *  -1 points [-]

In English, "Soviet" is the adjectival form of "USSR".

Because Soviets are a central part of how the USSR was organised.

And in 1968, did they believe that this was how things were done in the USSR?

Copying on things were in the USSR wasn't the point. The point are certain Marxist ideas about the value of Soviets for political organisation.

What is the actual structure at the Free University of Berlin (FU) that you're referring to?

A system of of soviets, as I said above. There a lot of ideas involved. On the left you had a split between people who believe in social democracy and people who are Marxists. The FU Asta is Marxist.

The people sitting in it are still Marxist even through the majority of the student population of the FU isn't and they don't have a problem with that as they don't believe in representative democracy. They also defend their right to use their printing press to print whatever they want by not disclosing what they are printing. By law they are only allowed to print for university purposes and not for general political activism.