ZankerH comments on Open thread, Jan. 26 - Feb. 1, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ZankerH 26 January 2015 10:58:41PM *  12 points [-]

We disagree over how much it's possible to adapt in a single generation then. Anyway, ideologies that force absurd levels of pretence at gender equality at us aren't about adapting away these differences, they're about pretending they don't exist - and if you really wanted to reverse them, there are far more efficient processes to do so than ignoring them, given modern technology - but most would require acknowledging the inherent inequality in the first place. The only conclusion I can draw from the fact that nobody is pushing for this is that the gender equality movements are content to pretend to have accomplished anything by forcing people to pretend that the concept of gender equality corresponds to reality in any way.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 27 January 2015 04:33:16PM *  1 point [-]

Adaptation is actually quite efficient within one single generation: those who don't mate, don't mate. If enough women decide that they don't want cavemen but feminist men, differential reproduction will sort out the results, and the next generation will feel more comfortable with a state of equality.

Edited to add: that is, assuming that opinions are genetic. They're not. Memetics is even faster than genetics at changing attitudes toward gender roles. The son of a caveman can learn to become a feminist, and vice versa. Change can happen in less than one generation.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 28 January 2015 09:59:16AM *  1 point [-]

There will also be competition among the feminist men. Seems to me that the loudest of them are often... uhm, former cavemen who have "seen the light" and became extremists for the other side. Or guys like this one. If there is a genetic component, these guys would bring it to the future.

More generally, Goodhart's law also applies to men signalling feminism.