Gunnar_Zarncke comments on Open Thread, Apr. 20 - Apr. 26, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 20 April 2015 01:43:17PM *  0 points [-]

I've occasionally been able to move my sense of self downwards from my head.

Just tried it. I'm able to move the focus of my attention downward. Mostly the same way as I can consciously widen the angle of my attention.

But I can't be sure that this implies that it is my self. I'd like to add that there are multiple self: A perceiving self (which I'm tempted to locate in the brain), a whole self which contains everything of my body that I take to be my body and then probably another self which is the space that I contain and where I do not wan't anybody to intrude on. And some more.

ADDED: The widening of the angle of perception seems to be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconcentration_of_attention

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 April 2015 07:41:52PM 1 point [-]

I just tried imagining being in my heart looking up at my head. I can't guarantee that I actually moved my sense of self-- maybe "I" was still in my head creating an imagined self in my heart-- but it was at least an interesting and rather cheering experience. I feel more alert.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 20 April 2015 07:55:10PM 0 points [-]

Can confirm that.

I noticed that my mood subly changed in response to the moved location - presumably due to the associations these bring. This would match up with the Dalai Lama receommendations in some other comment.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 April 2015 08:54:28PM 1 point [-]

For me, there was a large postural change. Oddly, moving my sense of self down meant that my head came up.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 20 April 2015 09:32:27PM 0 points [-]

Another thing I noticed: The effect feels like when directing attention toward something outside of the focus area (direction of gaze).