NancyLebovitz comments on Open Thread, Jun. 22 - Jun. 28, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 24 June 2015 06:22:46PM 6 points [-]

Can anyone think of a decision which might come up in ordinary life where Baysian analysis and frequentist analysis would produce different recommendations?

Comment author: Vaniver 25 June 2015 01:05:53PM 1 point [-]

The core difference between B and F is what they mean by "probability." If you go to the casino, the Bs and the Fs will interpret everything the same way, but when you go to the stock market, the Bs and the Fs will want to use their language differently. It seems likely to me that most of the uncertainties that show up in everyday life are things that Bs would be comfortable assigning probabilities to, but Fs would be hesitant about.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 25 June 2015 10:22:56PM 0 points [-]

When it comes to an action you must structure your knowledge in Bayesian terms to use to compute an expected utility. It is only when discussion detached knowledge that other options become available.

Comment author: jsteinhardt 26 June 2015 04:42:24AM 0 points [-]

??? This isn't true unless I misunderstood you. There are frequentist decision rules as well as Bayesian ones (minimax is one common such rule, though there are others as well).

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 26 June 2015 06:40:36AM 0 points [-]

In what sense is minimax frequentist?

Comment author: jsteinhardt 26 June 2015 07:38:12AM *  0 points [-]

From Wikipedia:

Consider the problem of estimating a deterministic (not Bayesian) parameter...

ETA: While that page talks about estimating parameters, most of the math holds for more general actions as well.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 26 June 2015 04:45:07PM 0 points [-]

I don't think that "non-bayesian" is a common definition of "frequentist." In any event, it's not a useful category.