Gleb_Tsipursky comments on Marketing Rationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 19 November 2015 11:10:12PM -1 points [-]

Good point (and I'm upvoting this comment of yours). I appreciate you helping me update on my weakness in not responding to everything. Silence is a hard virtue, and I am a teacher/explainer at heart, which is why I became a professor and started Intentional Insights. It's very hard for me to not explain, but I will try to restrain myself more in the future.

FYI, I did apologize to Ella (here is her Twitter account) in real life, but I also wanted to demonstrate to her and to others as well that Less Wrong is a forum for interactions about these sorts of issues. I think it's a valuable signal of how we should act as a community.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 20 November 2015 02:22:27PM 0 points [-]

I also wanted to demonstrate to her and to others as well that Less Wrong is a forum for interactions about these sorts of issues. I think it's a valuable signal of how we should act as a community.

The mistake there is that when you put on a show, people notice it, and question why you're putting on a show. You're always sending (at least) three signals: The first signal is the one you're attempting to send. The second signal is how you're sending it. The third signal is the context of your sending it. If you're only cognizant of the signal you're deliberately sending, you're almost certainly sending the wrong overall signal.

The "How" in this case is, roughly, putting on a show. You're telling people you're trying to manipulate them.

The context in this case is, roughly, an accusation. Combined with the manipulation, you're telling people you consider the accusation serious and potentially dangerous, and are manipulating them to not take it seriously.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 23 November 2015 06:28:39AM -2 points [-]

I think you're talking about putting on a show about putting on a show about putting on a show. It's at the level of meta that I'm struggling to breathe in this high atmosphere. I suggest we wrap up this thread.