Jiro comments on Open thread, Jul. 11 - Jul. 17, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jiro 15 July 2016 02:45:47PM 0 points [-]

At the same time bring a skeptic in situations where his beliefs about the domain might reasonably get challenged they might make excuses in advance.

I can guess that if you were to meet a flat-earther with the intent of engaging with his ideas, you would start thinking of what things he might show you and why those things wouldn't actually demonstrate a flat earth. That does not mean you are making "excuses in advance".

"He's probably going to show me how ships disappear on the horizon, but I know that is affected by air refraction." "Oh, you're just making an excuse in advance."

Comment author: ChristianKl 15 July 2016 08:44:23PM *  1 point [-]

That does not mean you are making "excuses in advance".

What empiric standard would you use to classify things as making excuses in advance?

Comment author: Jiro 16 July 2016 06:36:53AM 0 points [-]

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that "I can respond to any claim he's likely to make" isn't it. I'm not sure there is such a thing at all, short of having your idea be outright unfalsifiable.

Comment author: ChristianKl 16 July 2016 05:24:53PM 1 point [-]

It seems like there something that the OP means with "making excuses in advance". It might not what you think would be rightly called "making excuses in advance".

I don't think that category exists in a way where it can be successfully used to distinguish people who have anticipations and are identified with a belief from people who are just identified with it.