handoflixue comments on Timeless Identity - Less Wrong

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Comment author: handoflixue 25 May 2011 12:31:47AM 0 points [-]

"If cryonics were widely seen in the same terms as any other medical procedure, economies of scale would considerably diminish the cost"

To what degree are these economies of scale assumed? Is it really viable, both practically and financially, to cryogenically preserve 150,000 people a day?

Is there any particular reason to suspect that investing this sort of funding in to cryonics research is the best social policy? What about other efforts to "cure death" by keeping people from dying in the first place (for instance, those technologies that would be the necessary foundations for restoring people from cryonics in the first place)?

I see cryonics hyped a lot here, and in rationalist / transhuman communities at large, and it seems like an "applause light", a social signal of "I'm rationalist; see, I even have the Mandatory Transhumanist Cryogenics Policy!"

Comment author: bcoburn 25 May 2011 11:17:34PM 3 points [-]

Mandatory link on cryonics scaling that basically agrees with Eliezer:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/2f5/cryonics_wants_to_be_big/

Comment author: handoflixue 26 May 2011 01:20:37AM *  1 point [-]

Unless modern figures have drifted dramatically, free storage would give you a whopping 25% off coupon.

This is based on the 1990 rates I found for Alcor. And based on Alcor's commentary on those prices, this is an optimistic estimate.

Source: http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/CostOfCryonicsTables.txt

Cost of cryogenic suspension (neuro-suspension only): $18,908.76

Cost of fund to cover all maintenance costs: $6,600

Proportional cost of maintenance: 25.87%


I'd also echo ciphergoth's request for any sort of actual citation on the numbers in that post; the entire post strikes me as making some absurdly optimistic assumptions (or some utterly trivial ones, if the author was talking about neuro-suspension instead of whole-body...)