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Tyrrell_McAllister comments on Zeckhauser's roulette - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 20 January 2012 10:45:06PM *  0 points [-]

The cited argument goes wrong, so obviously that at first I had difficulty in understanding how it could be seriously put forward, in their comparision between case B (pay to remove the one bullet from a 3-shooter) and case C (half a chance of execution and half a chance of case B). In case B you're buying 1/3 of a utilon, in case C 1/6, hence pay twice as much in case B.

Cases B and C are equivalent according to standard decision theory.

Let L be the difference in utility between living-and-not-paying and dying. Let the difference in utility between living-and-paying and living-and-not-paying be X. Assume that you have no control over what happens if you die, so that the utility of dying is the same no matter what you decided to do. Normalize so that the utility of dying is 0.

In Case B, the expected utility of not-paying is 2/3 L + 1/3 0 = 2/3 L. The expected utility of paying is L − X. Thus, you agree to pay if and only if 2/3L ≤ L − X. That is, you pay if and only if X ≤ 1/3 L.

In Case C, the expected utility of not-paying is 1/2 * 0 + 1/2 * 2/3 L = 1/3 L. The expected utility of paying is 1/2 * 0 + 1/2 (L − X) = 1/2 (L − X). Thus, you agree to pay if and only if 1/3 L ≤ 1/2 (L − X). That is, you pay if and only if X ≤ 1/3 L.

Thus, in both cases, you will agree to pay the same amounts.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 21 January 2012 10:01:53PM 0 points [-]

I understand the argument, but it absolutely depends on your estate being of no value when you're dead. Ok, that's simply one of the rules given in the problem, but in reality, people generally care very much about the posthumous disposal of their assets. The gameshow version makes the problem much clearer, because one can very easily imagine a gameshow run exactly according to those rules.

But then, by making it much clearer, the paradox is reduced: it is easy to understand the equality of the two cases, even if one's first guess was wrong.