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Comment author: beoShaffer 30 September 2012 01:28:49AM *  0 points [-]

Highlight the culture by making the names of biases, logical fallacies and terms from the sequences colored and linked.

I'm not sure how technically feasible it is, but I'd be interested in having something like the WikiWords system from MediaWiki(the base for TV Tropes) for internal links and/or links to the wiki. I already try to link to them whenever relevant, but it's a non-neglible inconvenience to find the right urls and add the right markup.

Provide users with two or more words of verbal feedback when voting.

Perhaps (down)voting could automatically open a reply box, thus encouraging more detailed feedback while still allowing user discretion. More feedback is usually good, but sometimes someone has already written a good critique that I can just upvote or something. So I don't like making it mandatory. -edited to clarify that I meant MediaWiki rather than the TV Tropes specific variant.

Comment author: Nornagest 30 September 2012 01:39:45AM *  3 points [-]

TV Tropes' markup system is a godawful homegrown mess and I wouldn't recommend using it; it'd be incompatible with wiki markup and unfamiliar to pretty much everyone that hasn't done time on TV Tropes. Incorporating some subset of MediaWiki markup into the blog wouldn't be a bad idea, though.

Comment author: beoShaffer 30 September 2012 03:31:35AM 0 points [-]

Sorry, I was thinking of MediaWiki, but I put TV Tropes because I just finished explaining the parts of MediaWiki I like in the context of explaining TV Tropes, and I don't uses any other MediaWiki sites, so I TV Tropes was much more mentally salient than MediaWiki.

Comment author: Nornagest 30 September 2012 04:52:41AM *  0 points [-]

TV Tropes is based on pmwiki, actually, although it's got a great deal of homebrew code on top of that (including much of its markup). MediaWiki's what Wikipedia uses, along with the Less Wrong wiki and many other post-Wikipedia wikis. The two are both written in PHP and accept SQL backends, but they don't have much in common in terms of interface, and there are pretty substantial differences in markup as well.

I haven't spent a lot of time in MediaWiki, but for example it doesn't do pmwiki-style WikiWords; internal links are established via [[double square brackets]] instead.

Comment author: beoShaffer 30 September 2012 05:26:13AM 0 points [-]

Ok, so what I'm trying to say is I want WikiWords, approximately like whats offered on TV Tropes, and I was going along with what I thought you were saying because I don't do any other wikis or know much about TV Tropes codebase.

Comment author: Epiphany 30 September 2012 02:21:36AM 2 points [-]

Mm good idea, I don't know why I overlooked that (making it prompt the user when voting rather than requiring it) I will change the idea.