Jayson_Virissimo comments on Fallacies of reification - the placebo effect - Less Wrong Discussion
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A previous discussion about placebo effects between Morendil and I can be found here.
Interesting, I agree with what Morendil said in that previous conversation but rejected this post at the first line. I guess that's just due to the difference between "there is no such thing as the placebo effect" and my position of "the placebo effect as commonly understood is almost entirely bullshit".
Care to state your position more fully? Or where you disagree with the above, apart from the first line? (I do warn that my actual position is a bit more nuanced - I admit the reality of the expectancy effects on pain, and find the theories about classical conditioning somewhat plausible.)
I primarily disagree with that line---which you present as a summary. Making your thesis a lazy over-generalization really undermines your position (at least to those of us who take things literally.) I would likely agree with most of your 'nuanced' position.
Post edited as a result of the above. Thanks!
ETA: further edit as per the reply below.
I now love this post and reversed my vote! :)
(Perhaps consider saying "most people" instead of "you". People are easier to persuade when they are implied to already belong in the 'right' group rather than implied to be in the 'wrong majority'. It's also a little pessimistic in as much as your central position can only be true so long as your reader doesn't believe you!)
Or even "than you may think" instead "than you think".