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Comment author: gwern 21 February 2013 04:11:04PM 2 points [-]

Thanks for the odds corrections. I knew I got something wrong...

Two standard deviations is generally enough to get you into 'gifted and talented' programs, as they call them these days.

G&T stuff, yeah, but in the materials I've read 2sd is not enough to move you from 'bright' or 'gifted and talented' to 'genius' categories, which seems to usually be defined as >2.5-3sd, and using 3sd made the calculation easier.

Comment author: Vaniver 21 February 2013 04:52:30PM 0 points [-]

Eh. MENSA requires upper 2% (which is ~2 standard deviations). Whether you label that 'genius' or 'bright' or something else doesn't seem terribly important. 3.5 standard deviations is the 2.3 out of 10,000 level, which is about a hundred times more restrictive.

Comment author: gwern 21 February 2013 04:59:04PM 2 points [-]

I'd call MENSA merely bright... You need something in between 'normal' and 'genius' and bright seems fine. Genius carries all the wrong connotations for something as common as MENSA-level; 2.3 out of 10k seems more reasonable.