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Vika comments on Ritual Report: Boston Solstice Celebration - Less Wrong Discussion

8 Post author: Vika 27 December 2013 03:28PM

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Comment author: Vika 27 December 2013 09:32:25PM 0 points [-]

Why do these statements have undefined truth values?

Comment author: [deleted] 27 December 2013 11:48:50PM 1 point [-]

See somervta's comment above. But, I disagree with them on their second point.

If, in response to "If I'm (not) going to be outcompeted by simulated brains, I desire to (not) believe...", I asked you "Am I going to be outcompeted by simulated brains?" you probably wouldn't say "yes" or "no". There's no territory to match up with the map, i.e. your belief of whether or not we'll be outcompeted.

I don't know... Maybe people define territory differently, to include events that haven't happened and things that don't exist yet?

Comment author: Nisan 28 December 2013 12:47:19PM *  1 point [-]

Yep! Check out the B-theory of time.

Comment author: Vika 28 December 2013 07:56:52PM -1 points [-]

You can say something like "if I am going to be outcompeted by simulated brains in X% of Everett branches", which is part of the territory (if you accept many-worlds), but is not verifiable. I agree that it's better to stick with testable statements, especially if introducing people to the Litany of Tarski, so we will be more careful with this for next year's Solstice.