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Dagon comments on Open thread, Aug. 03 - Aug. 09, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 06 August 2015 02:59:49PM 1 point [-]

The most frequent error in my opinion is modelling a group of humans as a single human.

I think it's a bit more complicated. I see nothing wrong with modeling a group of humans as a single entity which has, say, particular interests, traditions, incentives, etc. There are big differences between "government" and "politicians in the government" -- an obvious one would be that politicians come and go, but the government (including a very large and very influential class of civil servants) remains.

I am not saying that we should anthropomorphise entities, but treating them just as a group of humans doesn't look right either.

Comment author: Dagon 06 August 2015 07:54:10PM 1 point [-]

It's a bit more complicated, but still basically true: a group is not very well modeled as an individual. Heck, I'm not sure individual humans have sufficient consistency over time to be well-modeled as an individual. I suspect that (Arrow's Theorem)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem] applies to subpersonal thinking modules as well as it does whole people.

A single entity which can believe and act simultaneously in contradictory ways is not really a single entity, is it?

Comment author: Lumifer 06 August 2015 08:27:15PM 0 points [-]

See my answer to Viliam...