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Comment author: Vaniver 06 August 2015 08:29:50PM 2 points [-]

If you could clone yourself, you would kill your copy for spare parts? I think more than just ethics boards have trouble with that.

(I also get the sense that brain transplants are neither feasible nor projected to be before uploading, basically.)

Comment author: Dagon 07 August 2015 03:27:18AM -2 points [-]

If I could clone myself (including brain-state), I'd of course pre-commit to roshambo amongst myselves for organs. And then clone more.

If the clones didn't include brain-state, I'd probably look for ways to make brain-free partial clones to avoid the question of who I'd be killing to live extra years.

Comment author: tut 07 August 2015 10:30:26AM *  2 points [-]

Ok, the answer to OPs question is that action flick "clones" are not possible with near future technology, and most likely making them (with Drexlerian nanotech or something) is strictly more difficult than just fixing your present body. Your real world clone would take 20 years to "make" and be a separate person, like you would be if you grew up when they did.

Comment author: IffThen 09 August 2015 02:52:32AM 1 point [-]

Your real world clone would take 20 years to "make" and be a separate person, like you would be if you grew up when they did.

This is partially missing the point. The goal is to make a separate body, compatible with your biology. There is no need to grow a clone with a functioning brain -- any medical science sufficient to clone a human would be able to clone an acephalic human (WARNING, NSFL, fetus with head damage), and growing a clone with a fully functioning brain (i.e., not driven insane by being grown in a de facto sensory deprivation chamber) would be much more expensive, even if you kept education to a minimum.

Still, all this is ethically questionable, something that would need a lot of advance planning, and will be a long time in the future. It is true that fixing your body piecemeal will almost surely be a better option -- even if it does end up involving some limited form of cloning organs.