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This isn't doxxing, I am not revealing otherwise difficult to get info, like address and phone and social security number, with the aim to harass. In fact, I am not revealing anything, I am just stating a guess. I have no inside info on either Clarity or Gleb.
I don't see a problem with speculating about whether two anonymous posters are the same person, but pushing the idea that a poster who wishes to remain anonymous is the same person as a poster who's publicly identified is close to doxing.
I agree. I feel violated, offended and frankly sorry for Gleb. Illya I honestly never would have expected this and from you of all people.
Ok, I removed the post. And I am out myself.
If (1) it isn't too late and (2) this is your reason for departing rather than an opportunity for doing something you'd been kinda wanting to for ages, may I suggest that you not leave? Your presence here is valuable and I don't think one misstep changes that.
(I appreciate that #1 or #2 might well be false.)
I think "I am out myself" here means "my real name is publicly associated with my LW account", and has nothing to do with leaving the site.
That's an ingenious conjecture, but I don't think I believe it. We already know Ilya's LW name is also his real name; repeating that fact here doesn't make any sense.
I think your posts are awesome and a much needed breath of fresh air.
In terms of virtue ethics: you are the kind of person we want here. And if someone doesn't, then that's a personality failing on their part.
Please stick around.
I think that even making guesses about someone's identity on an anonymous account is in very poor taste and actively discourages participation by people who are attempting to use anonymity as a tool to, "share [their] mind authentically". I consider that sort of thing d̶o̶x̶i̶n̶g̶ similar to doxing because it takes actions on identity outside of the anonymous person's terms. These days I'm generally against anything that has the potential to decrease activity on LW. (And even if Clarity is a generally ridiculous poster, he does foster discussions on the site at the very least.)
I think it's a bad idea to have the same person have multiple prolific accounts here. I think calling what I am doing "doxxing" is a fnord. "Fnord" is also a fnord.
I think its important to evaluate the impact of your suspicion being wrong. Calling Gleb Clarity is practically slander. And as I've said before my name is mentioned several times in my post history: Carlos.
More ethically questionable is that I started a discussion on the ethics of voluntary identification any my anxiety around the level of association and attention I bring to stress my anxiety here and was 'outed' albeit frivolously in this way
I apologize if I caused you any distress, that was not my intention.
Why don't you both guys edit the existing comments and replace the other person's name with "xxxxxxxx"?
If?
Should I feel bad about this? Granted, neither of those accounts is linked to a meatspace identity, but...
No. It would have been bad if you'd been wrong. But you had reason to be confident, and you were right.
Possibly it would have been better to message Nancy privately. But she's busy, and in the time between "Eugine shows up" and "Eugine gets banned", I prefer for the rest of us to know he's here.
Even if Eugine was tied to a meatspace identity, he's not allowed to be here. He's still not allowed to be here if he doesn't admit that it's him.
Thanks. Another commenter suggested the same in a PM. I'm going to do that the next time I spot a possible new Eugine Nier account.
How am I ridiculous?
Not all the time. In fact, you display an admirably deep degree of introspection.
BUT there's this.
And this.
And this.
And whatever this is.
And for the love of Zeus, this,