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Comment author: buybuydandavis 05 July 2016 10:46:53PM 0 points [-]

Also, I think there's an (unstated, and that should be fixed and the topic debated) belief that instrumental rationality without epistemic rationality is either useless or harmful.

I think some people agree with that, but I consider it backwards.

I'll take winning over accurately predicting. Winning is the desired end; accurate prediction is a means, and not the only one.

Comment author: Dagon 06 July 2016 02:04:42PM 0 points [-]

Umm, that's what I'm trying to say. If you don't know what "winning" is, you don't know whether your accurate predictions help you win or not.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 07 July 2016 09:31:30AM 0 points [-]

Were you? I'm not seeing what you're saying align with what I said.

On a perhaps related issue, you don't need to know what winning is, to win.

Competence without comprehension, a la Dennett.

Comment author: Dagon 07 July 2016 05:19:54PM 0 points [-]

you don't need to know what winning is, to win.

Sure, but that's luck, not rationality.