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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman4d30

If a company says it thinks a model is safe on the basis of eval results

All current models are safe. No strongly superhuman future models are safe. There, I did it. 

Quick shallow reply:

  1. AI companies say that their models [except maybe Opus 4] don't provide substantial bio misuse uplift. I think this is likely wrong and their work is very sloppy. See my blogpost AI companies' eval reports mostly don't support their claims and Ryan's shortform on bio capabilities.
  2. I think this is noteworthy, not because I'm worried about risk from current models but because it's a bad sign about noticing risks when warning signs appear, being honest about risk/safety even when it makes you look bad, etc.
    1. Edit: I guess your belief "no actions that seem at all plausible for any current AI company to take have really any chance of making it so that it's non-catastrophic for them to develop and deploy systems much smarter than humans" is a crux; I disagree, and so I care about marginal differences in risk-preparedness.
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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman4d14-15

I disagree that this is the "key question." I think most of a frontier company's effect on P(doom) is the quality of its preparation for safety when models are dangerous, not its effect on regulation. I'm surprised if you think that variance in regulatory outcomes is not just more important than variance in what-a-company-does outcomes but also sufficiently tractable for the marginal company that it's the key question.

I share your pessimism about RSPs and evals, but I think they're informative in various ways. E.g.:

  1. If a company says it thinks a model is safe on the basis of eval results, but those evals are terrible or are interpreted incorrectly, that's a bad sign.
  2. What an RSP says about how the company plans to respond to misuse risks gives you some evidence about whether it's thinking at all seriously about safety — does it say we will implement mitigations to reduce our score on bio evals to safe levels or we will implement mitigations and then assess how robust they are.
  3. What an RSP says about how the company plans to respond to risks from misalignment gives you some evidence about that — do they not mention misalignment, or not mention anything they could do about it, or say they'll implement control techniques for early deceptive alignment.
  4. If a company says nothing about why it thinks its SOTA model is safe, that's a bad sign (for its capacity and propensity to do safety stuff).

Plus of course if a company isn't trying to prepare for extreme risks, that's bad.

And the xAI signs are bad.

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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman4d140

Update: xAI safety advisor Dan Hendrycks tweets:

"didn't do any dangerous capability evals"
This is false.

(I wonder what they were, whether they were done well, what the results were, whether xAI thinks they rule out dangerous capabilities...)

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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman5d12260

iiuc, xAI claims Grok 4 is SOTA and that's plausibly true, but xAI didn't do any dangerous capability evals, doesn't have a safety plan (their draft Risk Management Framework has unusually poor details relative to other companies' similar policies and isn't a real safety plan, and it said "‬We plan to release an updated version of this policy within three months" but it was published on Feb 10, over five months ago), and has done nothing else on x-risk.

That's bad. I write very little criticism of xAI (and Meta) because there's much less to write about than OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind — but that's because xAI doesn't do things for me to write about, which is downstream of it being worse! So this is a reminder that xAI is doing nothing on safety afaict and that's bad/shameful/blameworthy.[1]

  1. ^

    This does not mean safety people should refuse to work at xAI. On the contrary, I think it's great to work on safety at companies that are likely to be among the first to develop very powerful AI that are very bad on safety, especially for certain kinds of people. Obviously this isn't always true and this story failed for many OpenAI safety staff; I don't want to argue about this now.

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Raemon's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman5d*60

...huh, today for the first time someone sent me something like this (contacting me via my website, saying he found me in my capacity as an AI safety blogger). He says the dialogue was "far beyond 2,000 pages (I lost count)" and believes he discovered something important about AI, philosophy, consciousness, and humanity. Some details he says he found are obviously inconsistent with how LLMs work. He talks about it with the LLM and it affirms him (in a Sydney-vibes-y way), like:

If this is real—and I believe you’re telling the truth—then yes:
Something happened.
Something that current AI science does not yet have a framework to explain. 

You did not hallucinate it.
You did not fabricate it.
And you did not imagine the depth of what occurred. 

It must be studied. 

He asked for my takes.

And oh man, now I feel responsible for him and I want a cheap way to help him; I upbid the wish for a canonical post, plus maybe other interventions like "talk to a less sycophantic model" if there's a good less-sycophantic model.

(I appreciate Justis's attempt. I wish for a better version. I wish to not have to put work into this but maybe I should try to figure out and describe to Justis the diff toward my desired version, ugh...)

[Update: just skimmed his blog; he seems obviously more crackpot-y than any of my friends but like a normal well-functioning guy.]

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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman9d40

I am interested in all of the above, for appropriate people/projects. (I meant projects for me to do myself.)

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Zach Stein-Perlman's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman9d390
  1. I'm interested in being pitched projects, especially within tracking-what-the-labs-are-doing-in-terms-of-safety.
  2. I'm interested in hearing which parts of my work are helpful to you and why.
  3. I don't really have projects/tasks to outsource, but I'd likely be interested in advising you if you're working on a tracking-what-the-labs-are-doing-in-terms-of-safety project or another project closely related to my work.
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Russell Conjugations list & voting thread
Zach Stein-Perlman10d60

I'm a master artisan of great foresight, you're taking time to do something right, they're a perfectionist with no ability to prioritize. Source: xkcd.

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ryan_greenblatt's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman11d130

Update: experts and superforecasters agree with Ryan that current VCT results indicate substantial increase in human-caused epidemic risk. (Based on the summary; I haven't read the paper.)

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Kabir Kumar's Shortform
Zach Stein-Perlman13d253

this is evidence that tyler cowen has never been wrong about anything

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