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40 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 August 2011 07:16AM

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Comment author: AuthorityFigure 25 August 2011 03:29:24PM 12 points [-]

"Sure, I'd love to! (I thought I didn't qualify to volunteer for SIAI?)"

LOL. Way to play up the role of the passive-aggressive outsider.

Comment author: OptimalFAI 25 August 2011 06:59:45PM 6 points [-]

Very true.

In the interest of optimizing our rationality I think that we need to continue to call out instances "community distancing" such as the one exhibited by Silas above.

The reason for doing so? It lets the dissenters know that a community can tolerate and appreciate criticism but not the creation of a lone wolf character. Lone wolves do not contribute to a community and instead impede our advances in rationality by drawing conversations back to their status. As such, their status seeking should be pointed out and skepticism should be attached to their future postings.

Passive-aggressive comments in particular are troublesome because these types eventually find ways to disrupt substantive threads by reminding others of their loner status and their unacknowledged genius. Their resentment then leads to them mocking key figures in a community (note Silas' comments to both Eliezer and Luke).

Perhaps LW needs a mini-sequence on acceptable and non-acceptable signaling within a rational community.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 August 2011 06:51:24AM *  6 points [-]

As such, their status seeking should be pointed out and skepticism should be attached to their future postings.

I object. "Lone wolves", and Silas in particular, are not more status seeking than average. Luke's contributions are far more status seeking than Silas's are. Luke is good at status seeking while Silas's biggest weakness is that he fails to status seek when it would clearly be in his interests to do so.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 August 2011 07:16:53PM 2 points [-]

It lets the dissenters know that a community can tolerate and appreciate criticism but not the creation of a lone wolf character. Lone wolves do not contribute to a community and instead impede our advances in rationality by drawing conversations back to their status.

Let's taboo "lone wolf" and see what you actually mean by it, because I don't see Silas as a lone wolf figure in this debacle. For example, most of his comments have positive karma -- what I would consider a lone wolf wouldn't have such support.

Comment author: lessdazed 25 August 2011 08:31:22PM *  1 point [-]

Lone wolves do not contribute to a community

You think they don't contribute at all?