I'm really keen to see the later posts in this series, since Lou's posts are often somewhat tricky to decrypt.
Cool! Yeah, I've gone over all of them a few times and starting outlining this, but also lost steam and moved to other things. You noting interest is useful for me getting more out :)
Great points. Your last three paragraphs get at something especially important, and I agree with your characterization.
We internally bounce between over/under updating on top down priors/bottom up data, and the pendulum swing is not optimally dampened. As below, so above.
Cross-posted on my roam-blog. This post is meant to be part of a series that explores the ideas in samzdat's The Uruk Series, and it also serves as a standalone introduction to the idea of legibility.
The first book that Lou rings in is Seeing Like a State by James C. Scott, and with it comes the ideas of Legibility and High Modernism. High Modernism is a movement/aesthetic/frame-of-mind that peaked around the middle of the 1900's (the shadow of which, we still live in), and legibility refers to the more abstract process that High Modernism represents.
Lou is mostly in the game of connecting the dots, and in introducing legibility he skips over a lot of the juicy details that appear in the book. I'd recommend Scott Alexander's book review of Seeing Like a State if you want to recover a lot of the concrete examples that ground out Lou's more abstract points. If you want the shortest possible intro to legibility and High Modernism, check out the ribbonfarm post on it. If all of those sound like too much reading, here's some highlights from all sources.
From Scott Alexander:
James C. Scott himself describing High Modernism:
A definition that Scott Alexander responds to:
Let's take a step back for a moment. It's easy to make the mistake of simplifying this to "Any government or top-down authority trying to change something is going to end up making things worse." That's why I'd really recommend reading Scott Alexander's post, so you can become familiar with the specific historical examples that ground this idea. James C. Scott and Lou both acknowledge that plenty of awesome things have come from some top-down plans (some of the urban planning that made it harder to be social in a city also made it less cramped and disease ridden)
The thing that Lou seems to be worried about is less any given decision that's made, but how decisions made through the lens of legibility cannot understand illegible counter arguments.
Some quotes from Lou:
another one:
and one last quote:
This might confuse you if you equated legible with "something a very clever person could understand." As Scott Alexander pointed out, it's more about wanting everything to conform to a specific aesthetic formatting, than it's about peak human intelligence/rationality.
The problem isn't that top down planners are going "Look, we've got this new urban design, and we know it will have some negative effects on how easy it is for people to socialize with their neighbors, but overall it should increase life expectancy by 10 years, so we think it's worth it." The problem is that it doesn't even look like a trade off in the eyes of legibility. "We made a great plan to increase life expectancy that has no downsides, and oh yeah, the plebs are complaining about 'friendship' or something, but they don't have any studies so why listen to them?"
Given all that, what happens if we don't have legible ways to quantify some of the aspect of life that are most important to people? (love, happiness, meaning, friendship, belonging, etc) That's what Lou spends a lot of the rest of the series exploring.