Here are two stories about stocks that I find hard to reconcile:
- Stock prices represent the market's best guess at a stock's future price.
- Overall, stock prices tend to go up due to advances in technology.
But if stock prices tend to go up due to technology, why isn't that already priced in?
This seems relevant to investment strategy:
- The more true #1 is, the less you should expect to beat the market over the long term: lots of other people with skin in the game have worked hard to produce that best guess.
- The more true #2 is, the more you might expect to beat the market over the long term: you only need to know which technologies are likely to grow, you don't need to know better than everyone else.
As an example: if you think AI is going to accomplish big thing X, and you think the market already knows this, should you buy and hold relevant AI company stock? Or would you expect the anticipated growth to already be priced in?
Some potential answers I can think of:
- The market is continually surprised by the pace of technology. (This seems unlikely to me.)
- Significant technology gains are realized in private companies. Stock market indicators go up when these companies go public, but the gains are only realized by the private investors. (But we could then reframe the question as "why do index funds go up" and hit the same issues.)
- Time-discounting: the market expects prices to go up, but they would rather have their money now than wait for the return and deal with volatility. As the technological gains are realized, the market expects the price to increase; individuals just can't benefit from that given their (aggregate) preferences. Knowledge of which technologies are likely to grow is already factored in, to the point where expected growth is distributed roughly evenly across all public companies. So story #1 is false, but to beat the market, you still have to know better than everyone else. (My current leading candidate.)
- Either story #1 or story #2 is false in some other way.
Question: What are good ways to think about this? What evidence do we have?
EDIT - Summary of things I got from answers/comments:
- ike points out that "why stocks go up" is at least partially an open problem known as the "equity premium puzzle". https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4vcTYhA2X99aGaGHG/why-do-stocks-go-up?commentId=XtR6rrdTnXJ5aJyJ6
- Vladimir_Nesov suggests that as the real cost of goods goes down, inflation targeting causes other things (including stock prices) to go up in nominal price. So technology uniformly increases stock prices by dropping the real cost of goods. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4vcTYhA2X99aGaGHG/why-do-stocks-go-up?commentId=92kj4rYCKgFWTG2G6
- lsusr (and others) suggest that stocks going up has to do with risk. I'm still pretty confused about this one. If stock prices move to be what they need to be in order to match risk with returns, but they also move to match some measure of a stock's actual value (in terms of dividends or otherwise), then how do those dynamics combine? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4vcTYhA2X99aGaGHG/why-do-stocks-go-up?commentId=BTQApZJJsGtBSHxfx
- Dagon points out the "greater fool theory" that stock prices might not reflect real value, and go up due to the shared expectation that they'll go up. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4vcTYhA2X99aGaGHG/why-do-stocks-go-up?commentId=GAzHsKrx49XXfB5gD
If I can summarize your question as something like "can I beat the returns on an index fund by only investing in companies with new/useful technologies", I think you'll find this question is similar to "which version of the EMH is true", and you'll also find a lot of good discussions about this, for example here: https://www.themoneyillusion.com/are-there-any-good-arguments-against-the-emh
For the two stories presented, I would say Story 1 is trivially true and Story 2 is probably false, although it's not phrased super well (for example, is "advances in technology" company specific or general economic growth?). Trying to read between the lines, it seems like you're wondering something like "if my choice to invest is between two companies, and Company 1 has current cash flow of $1-million and future cash flow of $1-million (no growth), and Company 2 has current cash flow of zero but future cash flow of $1-trillion (lots of growth), should I always invest in Company 2?" And my answer is "no, unless you think weak EMH is true and there's a specific inefficiency that you can uncover through your research" ( and even then, your research might determine you should sell rather than buy Company 2).
To improve the framework, I suggest the following distinctions/assumptions:
Using this framework, you could change your question to something like "assuming weak EMH is true, what sorts of public information about a company's new/useful technologies would allow me to value a company more accurately than the average investor". Then you could search for studies that try to answer this question or something similar.