So... in terms of "well intentioned" limits on letting things over the boarder, etc etc....
There's a story of some smallish island nation (Carabian somewhere?), which had a functioning Domestic diary system. They made a free trade deal with USA, incoming corporations bottomed out the price until no locals could compete, and then once the domestic market collapsed, they jacked them back UP again, (for massive profits).
There are like... legitimate reasons to deliberately favor local food production, even when doing so is "inefficient" in an economic sense. Preserving your own countries ability to produce food can be sensible self reliance, even if someone else could do it cheaper and more efficiently. A decade back New Zealand almost collapsed the entire Canadian Apple market. That's... probably not great, and I can understand govts pushing against that.
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Of course IF your domestic supplies collapse (due to weather/factory malfunction, whatever), THEN it would be very stupid to keep those rules in place. :| And just because you are be protectivist of your local food supply chain doesn't mean you should hand it all to one corperation. So... you know. The current plan still sounds kind of bad.
This was absolutely correct in the past, and is the reason that WTO anti-dumping regulations exist, and as of 1995, are pretty well managed and enforceable. https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/adp_e/adp_info_e.htm
There's a story of some smallish island nation (Carabian somewhere?), which had a functioning Domestic diary system. They made a free trade deal with USA, incoming corporations bottomed out the price until no locals could compete, and then once the domestic market collapsed, they jacked them back UP again, (for massive profits).
And, after "they jacked them back UP again", was it illegal for anyone else to import dairy themselves? Were there legal or regulatory barriers from whomever had previously been part of the former "functioning [domestic] [dairy] system" from restarting their party of the system?
Was there some reason why none of the "incoming corporations" undercut the prices of the others? Were those corporations part of a cartel?
More generally, are there or should there be any particular sensible limits to 'local production' – either in terms of the local system, e.g. the prices they can charge (or are guaranteed), or how local any particular system is? It's not obvious to me that 'protectionism' is an unalloyed good.
I admit that I'm still sympathetic! I've definitely come around to protectionism not being obviously or always bad. It doesn't seem ideal that basically the good/best 'silicon' production, for pretty much the entire world, currently is concentrated in one somewhat beleaguered island nation.
(Small Caribbean island nations in particular seem sorta inevitably fucked, if only by geography. I've never come across great ideas for what they can really do beyond hope for honesty and goodwill from their trading partners.)
And, after "they jacked them back UP again", was it illegal for anyone else to import dairy themselves? Were there legal or regulatory barriers from whomever had previously been part of the former "functioning [domestic] [dairy] system" from restarting their party of the system?
Starting a farm back up again takes a lot of capital. It takes TIME (during which, like, you need food). Land changing land is not like an instantaneous thing.
What you are describing sounds all well and good, assuming you are working in a frictionless economic system, where start up capital is available, etc etc. But the system is NOT frictionless, and overseas companies had just demonstrated that they could and WOULD slash prices in order to break the domestic market (hence, investment in local infrastructure didn't just have to make sense NOW, it had to make sense in the knowledge of what importers would do in response)
As for other importers coming in and providing competition... I don't know. "International importation" seems to concerntrate the market into the hands of a smaller number of players. Economic theory may say that nice equilibria exist for "many sellers, many buyers", and it may say that bad equilibria exist for Monopoly pricing, but on the scales discussed here, I suspect we have a case of "Two or maybe three Importers", and there... even if there is no explicit cartel going on, I can easily see both sellers just deciding NOT to get into a price war with one another.
This seems like a good situation to try re-writing some incentives. Are there any lawyers who can comment on whether the FDA could be sued for wrongful death if any baby did starve? Are any rationalists members of parents’ groups who could be persuaded to attempt such a lawsuit? This seems like the sort of situation where loudly and publicly threatening to sue the FDA and cause them massive bad publicity might actually cause a change in policy - the FDA probably prefers changing policy to being sued, even if the lawsuit’s odds of success are only 50:50.
The FDA, like most federal agencies, has immunity for most liability. You cannot sue them for approving a drug that kills someone, you cannot sue them for failing to approve a necessary drug. You cannot sue them for misrepresentation or incompetence, regardless of harm.
Federal prosecutors may be able to charge individuals at the FDA with fraud or crimes, if egregious enough. But I don't know of it ever happening, and it would not happen without pretty significant evidence of malice rather than just incompetence or misaligned incentives.
Random search turned up https://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/28/business/fda-official-faces-us-charges.html so it does happen. It does seem rare.
After reading this post, I think I'm becoming convinced that we need more tariffs on infant formula specifically.
The US is a very large market; if such a giant market has consolidated enough so that a disruption in a single plant causes shortages, then we're talking about a natural monopoly (perhaps caused by regulation of infant formula, but most of those regulations seem unlikely to go away and may even be desirable).
If there is a natural monopoly in formula production, then increasing the size of the market from "US" to "global" will only decrease the number of formula producers. Then the next crisis will be worse: a shutdown in a single plant would cause a global formula shortage.
I'm all for temporarily lifting the import bans. It is sad that this has not happened faster. But the idea that tariffs caused the market consolidation in the first place seems exactly backwards to me. If there were no tariffs to begin with, we'd be in the same situation, just with a global shortage instead.
Also, you make a good case that formula is important, to the level where producing it domestically seems like a national security issue. This is a classic use case for tariffs.
Are we going to talk about the coincidence that Abbott is also the leading supplier of rapid Covid tests???
It's tricky because as far as I can tell you were dead wrong about the European vaccine blood clots stuff but it was hard to research so idk whether you are dead wrong about the infant formula stuff too.
Note: This was posted originally on Thursday, May 12 as part of the weekly Covid post. It is being separated out into its own post for future reference, and in case some people are no longer reading Covid posts.
There’s a shortage of specialty infant formula. Half of all types are unavailable. Some parents are panicking, without a plan for how to feed a baby that can’t use regular formula.
One of my good friends looked into this a bit and isn’t buying that the shortage could be caused by shutting down this one plant. This article’s primary contribution is that the supply chains were already strained before the shutdown due to demand fluctuations on top of supply issues in the wake of the pandemic. It’s certainly a large contributor, and it’s possible without the shutdown we wouldn’t have a problem.
This one points out that before the recent recall, we were on the edge of disaster to start, through a combination of the usual supply chain disruptions and the usual tariffs. We went out of our way to ensure that the supply of baby formula couldn’t compete against American dairy farmers, and, well, whoops. This quote from that post (the quote is originally from here) is very on the nose:
I don’t get why even people who generally sound even more infuriated about this than I do, like Scott Lincicome, still produce sentences like this first one:
Well-intentioned? If your goal is profits for a politically connected set of rent seekers, sure. If your goal is anything else, I notice I am confused what these intentions are and how they could be defined as falling under this category of ‘well.’ I flat out refuse to buy the argument that this arises out of physical world models that cause genuine concern that Canadian formula would hurt American children.
There are two possibilities. One, the optimistic one, is that this is mostly about getting insiders more money. The other is that this is about expanding a bureaucratic power base or otherwise simply preferring worse outcomes to better outcomes.
Then we created a system whereby a large portion of all formula is heavily (as in >90%) subsidized from a legally mandated single-source, which happens to be the single source that got shut down.
And with that stage set where we restrict supply in order to jack up prices to begin with, guess who is once again going to cause children to not be able to get nutrition and potentially die from that?
That’s right. The FDA. Who shut down the plant after two deaths. Then kept it closed, citing ‘health code violations,’ it has been three months and they won’t say anything about when it might be allowed to reopen.
One solution would be to import formula from the highly dangerous Europe and Canada, but as noted above that’s not permitted.
Meanwhile, what is law enforcement up to?
That’s right. It’s not only about not giving people life saving medicine. It’s also about denying young children the ability to eat. My presumption is this won’t reach the point of babies starving to death this time – unlike when the FDA prevented IVs from properly supplying babies with the proper nutrients for years. I hope.
What is the FDA saying it is doing about this?
They’re holding meetings, expediting reviews, monitoring the supply chain, compiling data, ‘Expediting the necessary certificates to allow for flexibility in the movement of already permitted products from abroad into the U.S’, ‘Exercising enforcement discretion on minor labeling issues for both domestic and imported products to help increase volume of product available as quickly as possible’ and most importantly ‘Not objecting to Abbott Nutrition releasing product to individuals needing urgent, life-sustaining supplies of certain specialty and metabolic formulas on a case-by-case basis that have been on hold at its Sturgis facility.’
However, they note:
So things they are not going to allow while doing ‘everything in their power’ to fix the problem they themselves are causing include: Letting anyone enter the market, letting known-safe formulas approved elsewhere into the USA, waiving procedures of any kind beyond ‘minor labeling issues’ or letting the Abbott Nutrition plant resume production or any at-scale distribution on any known time scale.
Once again: FDA Delenda Est. Tariffs Delenda Est, longstanding but never-highlighted group member, especially when they’re on things like specialty baby formulas and solar panels we’re now going to build less of than we were under the Trump administration thanks to worries about retroactive 240% tariffs, no really. We really, really don’t care. And also of course delenda est to the idea that the solution to all our supply problems is to never use prices to control demand, demand perfect safety and to insist that all necessary production magically happens here in America somehow anyway.
Earlier, it turns out… there may not have ever been a contaminated product at all?
Yes, they uncovered various signs the plant wasn’t as clean as we’d like it to be, but almost nothing is as clean as we’d like it to be, the costs of closure are orders of magnitude beyond plausible costs of contamination in practice, it’s very possible those costs were damn near or actual zero, and it’s now been several months.
While I did consider splitting this off into its own post, Scott Lincicome’s coverage is mostly excellent and contains a lot of great detail, so if you want to link to something on this for general consumption, probably fine to link to him instead.