I wish this was translated to English...
EDIT: I meant the original obscure language of Moldbug. I wasn't trying to disparage Konkvistador's attempt to make his ideas somewhat more accessible.
I did warn you:
He uses his writing style as a barrier to entry (it is debatable if this does more harm than good for his quality of thought and communication, but it is an interesting way to aim for the correct contrarian cluster).
But I'm not sure why this is getting downvoted. Perhaps LWers like "computer business" derived lingo? In any case here is your condensed translation in two paragraphs:
There are several ways to classify beliefs systems. I can think of the five ways nominalist (classify it according to what it calls itself), typological (classify it according to one particular feature, like "all religions that have a holy day on monday"), morphological (based on several features - dolphins and fish share several features), cladistic (both A and B are descented from C, lets get a common name for this branch despite disparate morphology) and adaptive (A fills the aquatic super-predator niche, B fills the terrestrial herbivore niche - lets now take a look at what we can say about the likley adaptations super-predators and herbivores tend to pick up and which features of A and B are more or less expected and which are surprising).
I don't think the first two are very useful for thinking about the dominant ethical/ideological/religious systems. Oh and dominant modern belief systems are largely derived from, share several characteristics with and are descended from Protestant Christianity and I drive this home by using it a as an example several times.
Hope that helps!
Think you could do this for his whole blog? You could have a whole moldbug_explained.blogspot.com running in parallel. ;)
Elsewhere he writes why he uses the term kernel rather than memeplex:
Your kernel is the set of assertions you agree with. In theory, since no one can physically stop you from thinking for yourself, everyone could have a different kernel. But in practice, people are social animals, they get most of their assertions from others, and their kernels cluster.
Therefore, we can speak of "prototype" kernels, implying patterns of agreement across social groups. Methodism, for example, is a "prototype" under this definition. Not all Methodists agree on all assertions factual, ethical, or metaphysical, but there is clearly a general pattern of consensus.
These patterns correspond to the networks by which assertions are transmitted between individuals. Let's call a assertion in transmission a "packet." If you "accept" the packet, it means you agree with the assertion. If you "reject" it, you don't.
(There's another word that means "transmitted belief." I've made up my mind about this word: I don't like it. Mainly because it makes me sound like a dork. The mere auditory tone of the word, its mouth-feel, is awful, and its various declensions (such as "memeplex") are even worse. But "meme" also implies a sort of scientistic pretense that I find unwholesome, an attempt to intimidate the reader through the bogus authority of jargon. I prefer to borrow words from the computer business specifically because I think of programming as a trade, not a science. )
But "meme" also implies a sort of scientistic pretense that I find unwholesome, an attempt to intimidate the reader through the bogus authority of jargon. I prefer to borrow words from the computer business specifically because I think of programming as a trade, not a science.
I have the opposite reaction to these words, possibily because of limited programming knowledge.
It seems as though it should at least be useful to think about what sort of classification one is using. Thanks for realizing that your classification system might be incomplete.
I consider adaptive explanations to be chancy-- it's hard to be sure which features are doing what. And it's interesting that you're more apt to bring in adaptive explanations when you know the least.
For example, Christianity has gotten advantages from being a state religion, but are (as I suspect) the big threats and promises about the afterlife a major hook?
Thanks for realizing that your classification system might be incomplete.
I emphasised I found it a somewhat useful frame for thinking. I really hope I didn't imply in the OP it was the only, best or most complete one!
I consider adaptive explanations to be chancy-- it's hard to be sure which features are doing what. And it's interesting that you're more apt to bring in adaptive explanations when you know the least.
This reminds me a lot of common failings when using pop evolutionary psychology.
He appears to be using a straw man in his description of typological classification by giving examples that rely on superficial features.
The obvious question which I hope to discuss in the comment section is which of these approaches is most useful under a wide set of circumstances and goals.
I quickly thought of disguised queries. The post is an exercise in labeling things, but in order to tell whether you're labeling things well you need to use the labels for something.
On recommendation from several LessWrongers I've been over the past year or so occasionally digging into the many long posts to be found in the archives of Unqualified Reservations (archive links best accessed from here). It is written by Mencius Moldbug, who is probably familiar to many of us here as well as to readers of Overcoming Bias. He is an erudite, controversial and most of all contrarian social critic and writer.
He sometimes repeats and often refines his key ideas. He uses his writing style as a barrier to entry (it is debatable if this does more harm than good for his quality of thought and communication, but it is an interesting way to aim for the correct contrarian cluster), thus he is an acquired taste, posters have recommended the gentle introduction series as good place to start reading him. This series is similar, while this one and The Formalist Manifesto focus more on summarizing his political thought, which may also be useful in itself.
Link to topical entry is here. Link to discussion on previous entry I read is here.
On LessWrong already discussed a more extensive form of this argument in "Belief in religion considered harmful?".
Upon introspection I generally seem to implicitly use adaptive frames for "kernels" in ancient societies I don't know very well (or which don't have a well preserved written history - say like an explanation for widespread human sacrifice in Mesoamerica) and when I just read something by Dawkins. Morphological when thinking about religion in ancient literate societies I know quite a bit about like say the Roman Empire and nominalist when deciding how I classify modern religions like Mormonism.
There are other examples, but overall Moldbug's division seems to me to capture most of my differing approaches to thinking about "kernels" and indeed they do seem to be running on different algorithms. The obvious question which I hope to discuss in the comment section is which of these approaches is most useful under different sets of circumstances and goals.
Doing some thought on it his take on the concept and his division of the categories. In itself it seems a somewhat useful framework for thinking about intellectual fashion and ideological or religious transformation.