I have decided to call articulating the value of a specific tradition "hanging Chesterton's Sign."
I appreciate this post, and I think this is an insightful take on these much-discussed books and widely used phrase.
One ongoing (endless) tension in sustainability transitions - ie the study and acceleration of societal changes towards better social, environmental, and economic systems - is the idea of improving our knowledge of "what works" through rigorous and centralised testing and evaluation vs. approaches that emphasise local knowledge, practices and structures.
If youre interested, some of the terms that have been devised to try and grapple with this are "transdisciplinary"; "place-based approaches"; and "community based participatory research".
Thank you for the kind words and flagging some terms to look out for in societal change approaches.
TLDR; Chesterton’s Fences are important, and very hard to identify/evaluate. With finite time, bountiful stupidity and inflated egos, it is too easy to not look deeply enough at existing ways of doing things and understand why they are the way they are before attempting to “fix” them. Reading Secrets of our Success and Seeing Like a State has strengthened my prior to dig deeper on why things are done, in proportion to how long they have stood the tests of time. Writing this piece has helped me develop a framework (in the form of fitness landscapes) to think about Chesterton’s Fences and how uncovering both the motivations and mechanisms behind them is often intractable, requiring clever trial and error along with the acceptance of unfortunate, unintended consequences.
Chesterton's Fence states that if you encounter a fence in the middle of nowhere, you should stop and first understand why it was put there before taking it down. There is probably a good reason the fence is there in the first place, and finding out the hard way might be really bad and irreversible. Chesterton's Fence was the original motivation for the creation of Slate Star Codex and is a principle I have thought a lot about recently while reading Secrets of our Success and Seeing Like a State.
Both of these books convey endless appreciation for the complexity, nuance, and unintended consequences that local expertise accounts for and the naive outsider ignores at risk of their own demise. Cherry picking some fascinating examples:
An example on the forced villagization of Tanzania in the 1970s:
This example and its context in the book presents a meta-Chesterton Fence. At the levels of each individual tribe, farmer, and even plot of land, there is a unique environment that cultural and agricultural expertise evolved to harness over time.
On a seemingly silly but potentially highly effective hunting strategy:
An interesting tidbit on how difficult it is for humans to be random from Scott Aaronson:
In all of the examples provided, failure to acknowledge local expertise, painfully acquired through trial and error and retained across generations, leads to a suboptimal outcome. This suboptimality is not only for the very metric desired, for example, crop yields, but also for overall welfare where the Tanzanian’s crops became more vulnerable, less nutritionally diverse and their community ties were severed. There are many further interesting examples of Chesterton’s Fence in the two books, from rituals for pregnant mothers to not eat shark, to the perils of scientific forestry and the high-modernist planning ideals that made Brasilia one of the least livable cities on earth.
Beyond creating a suboptimal outcome for the desired metric, the very creation of this metric induces Goodhart's Law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure." often because the metric is exploited. An amusing yet tragic example from Seeing Like a State is:
I find Chesterton's Fence a very useful principle that we are prone to forget. However, from reading page after page about the failures of societal interventions, I feel the sheer complexity of the natural world and severity of the unintended consequences of our actions can induce a state of "epistemic learned helplessness" that leads me into the comforting arms of the appeal to nature. So what should we keep in mind as we gaze upon this fence in the middle of nowhere and consider dismantling it?
I think it is useful to perceive Chesterton’s Fence as a local optimum on a very non-linear, high dimensional fitness landscape. Evolution, primarily of our culture but also of our genome, has converged on this local optimum through trial, error, and improvement. This local optimum is often deeper and more optimal than the naive outside observer is aware. Dismantling Chesterton's Fence shifts our current solution’s parameters away from this optimum and the search for a new optimum can be expensive, slow, and result in a worse new solution we can’t backtrack from.
I like this fitness landscape framing for a few reasons:
Fitness landscapes are often intractable to optimize because either the evaluation of a particular solution is too expensive or the space is too large to be effectively searched. In the case of modifying our lives, social norms, or society, both of these difficulties are present. As a result, we are basically blind in taking steps across the state space and need to use trial and error, making these steps very small so that they are cheap to perform and reversible.[2] This means running experiments (ideally RCTs) and using evidence from them to constantly diagnose how new solutions are performing on old problems, and inform directions in which further improvements are sought.
But even RCTs aren't enough. Seeing Like a State highlights well-intentioned failures of scientific agriculture as the result of failing to test solutions in sufficiently diverse environments. For any scientific experiment there are only so many variables that can be feasibly tested and controlled for. Not only is this number often much smaller than necessary to provide findings that work in the real world, but also it is plausible that no solution will generalize across such diverse environments. It is within this context that Seeing Like a State argues science should have a deeper appreciation for cultural practices and tacit knowledge, at the very least using them as a form of hypothesis generation.
For example, traditional medicinal practices have been a boon to drug discovery. Western medicine uses RCTs to assess efficacy but very often lacks a mechanistic understanding of why something works. We are still uncovering the mechanisms underlying aspirin and one of the most successful cancer drugs, paclitaxel, was discovered after sprinkling a compound from the bark of a Pacific Yew tree on cancer cells and still has unknown mechanisms.
Another reason the fitness landscape is a useful framing for Chesterton’s Fence is that the “fitness” used to determine a landscape is arbitrary. The No Free Lunch Theorem states that if we were to average the quality of our solution across all possible definitions of fitness, all solutions would perform equally. Therefore, we must first define fitness. Moreover, the fitness landscape our culture and genomes have been optimizing for in the past have been defined by evolution, not the ideals of a modern liberal democracy. And as causally opaque and crucial some rituals are to survival, such as cassava processing, there also exist clearly harmful and unnecessary practices such as female genital mutilation.
On the problem of defining fitness, I wish there was more discussion about utopias to know what end goals or ideals we should be optimizing for. I'd love suggestions for Utopian reading, the most compelling political system/utopia I have encountered is: this but my reference class is very small[3].
Aside from “fitness” being arbitrary, the landscape is constantly changing as our physical and societal environments present new ridges and valleys for the existing local optimum that culture and evolution are always optimizing. For example, accelerating technological progress is making "increasing numbers of things we like [...] into things we like too much" by becoming addictive, hacking our reward pathways like an Oreo. In this context, the status quo is maintained only with the presence, not absence of efforts to resist novel addictions.
Seeing Like a State certainly acknowledges the expensive search for often worse local optima ridden with unintended consequences. However, it also recognizes that this disruption is necessary to enable greater State intervention, which in turn can produce great outcomes. This is because local culture is too nuanced to be measured, summarized, and understood from a central decision making body. Greater State intervention is a prerequisite to the public health, sanitation and welfare miracles of the last couple centuries. Therefore, uprooting Chesterton’s Fences can be a long term investment by the State in better wellbeing, leading to superior local optima.
I believe that the concept of Chesterton's Fence is powerful. Obtaining more information before taking any action is always desirable. However, this information acquisition can often be too costly, the Fence may rest on dubious morals, and be transforming already and independently. Under these circumstances, Chesterton’s Fences should be challenged in the name of human flourishing, but only with great humility, careful experimentation, and apologies for the inevitable unintended consequences. Good intentions alone, as Seeing Like a State documents in detail, are not enough and can be downright dangerous because of the dramatic changes they inspire. A quote from Yudkowsky comes to mind that can be modified to read: "not all changes to Chesterton’s Fences lead to better outcomes but all better outcomes come from changes to Chesterton’s Fences." Thus, with a hat tip to the No Free Lunch Theorem, let us find humanity a restaurant where lunch isn't free but the greatest number finds it tastier.
Thanks very much to Joe Choo-Choy, Max Farrens, and Miles Turpin for reading drafts of this piece.
The original post has been cross posted from: https://trentbrick.github.io/On-Chestertons-Fence/ .
Footnotes
It would be interesting to know if the processing techniques used by the Amazonians and lacking in much of Africa were developed simply because of time, if the Amazonian diet is more restricted which would increase selection pressure, or if there are other analogous food processing techniques readily generalized from other foods already. ↩︎
Joe Choo-Choy rightly points out the complication that steps must be sufficiently large to override any noise naturally occurring to the parameters. ↩︎
I like a quote in Seeing Like a State from Albert Howard: “The discovery of the things that matter is three quarters of the battle.” ↩︎