Welcome to the Rationality reading group. This fortnight we discuss Part T: Science and Rationality (pp. 1187-1265) and Interlude: A Technical Explanation of Technical Explanation (pp. 1267-1314).This post summarizes each article of the sequence, linking to the original LessWrong post where available.
T. Science and Rationality
243. The Failures of Eld Science - A short story set in the same world as "Initiation Ceremony". Future physics students look back on the cautionary tale of quantum physics.
244. The Dilemma: Science or Bayes? - The failure of first-half-of-20th-century-physics was not due tostrayingfrom the scientific method. Science and rationality - that is, Science and Bayesianism - aren't the same thing, and sometimes they give different answers.
245. Science Doesn't Trust Your Rationality - The reason Science doesn't always agree with the exact, Bayesian, rational answer, is that Science doesn'ttrustyou to be rational. It wants you to go out and gather overwhelming experimental evidence.
246. When Science Can't Help - If you have an idea, Science tells you to test it experimentally. If you spend 10 years testing the idea and the result comes out negative, Science slaps you on the back and says, "Better luck next time." If you want to spend 10 years testing a hypothesis that will actually turn out to beright,you'll have to try to do the thing that Science doesn't trust you to do: think rationally, and figure out the answerbeforeyou get clubbed over the head with it.
247. Science Isn't Strict Enough - Science lets you believe any damn stupid idea that hasn't been refuted by experiment. Bayesianism says there is always an exactly rational degree of belief given your current evidence, and this does not shift a nanometer to the left or to the right depending on your whims. Science is a social freedom - we let people test whatever hypotheses they like, because we don't trust the village elders to decide in advance - but you shouldn't confuse that with an individual standard of rationality.
248. Do Scientists Already Know This Stuff? - No. Maybe someday it will be part of standard scientific training, but for now, it's not, and the absence is visible.
249. No Safe Defense, Not Even Science - Why am I trying to break your trust in Science? Because you can't think and trust at the same time. The social rules of Science are verbal rather than quantitative; it is possible to believe you are following them. With Bayesianism, it is never possible to do an exact calculation and get the exact rational answer that you know exists. You arevisiblyless than perfect, and so you will not be tempted to trust yourself.
250.Changing the Definition of Science - Many of these ideas are surprisingly conventional, and being floated around by other thinkers. I'm a good deal less of a lonely iconoclast than I seem; maybe it's just the way I talk.
251. Faster Than Science - Is it really possible to arrive at the truthfasterthan Science does? Not only is it possible, but the social process of science relies on scientists doing so - when they choose which hypotheses to test. In many answer spaces it's not possible to find the true hypothesis by accident. Science leaves it up to experiment tosociallydeclare who was right, but if there weren't somepeople who could get it right in the absence of overwhelming experimental proof, science would be stuck.
252. Einstein's Speed - Albert was unusually good at finding the right theory in the presence of only a small amount of experimental evidence. Even more unusually, he admitted it - he claimed to know the theory was right, even in advance of the public proof. It's possible to arrive at the truth by thinking great high-minded thoughts of the sort that Science does not trust you to think, but it's alot harderthan arriving at the truth in the presence of overwhelming evidence.
253. That Alien Message - Einstein used evidence more efficiently than other physicists, but he was still extremely inefficient in anabsolutesense. If a huge team of cryptographers and physicists were examining a interstellar transmission, going over it bit by bit, we could deduce principles on the order of Galilean gravity just from seeing one or two frames of a picture. As if the very first human to see an apple fall, had, on the instant, realized that its position went as the square of the time and that this implied constant acceleration.
254. My Childhood Role Model - I looked up to the ideal of a Bayesian superintelligence, not Einstein.
255. Einstein's Superpowers - There's an unfortunate tendency to talk as if Einstein had superpowers - as if, even before Einstein was famous, he had an inherent disposition to be Einstein - a potential as rare as his fame and as magical as his deeds. Yet the way you acquire superpowers is not by being born with them, but by seeing, with a sudden shock, that they are perfectly normal.
256. Class Project - The students are given one month to develop a theory of quantum gravity.
This has been a collection of notes on the assigned sequence for this fortnight. The most important part of the reading group though is discussion, which is in the comments section. Please remember that this group contains a variety of levels of expertise: if a line of discussion seems too basic or too incomprehensible, look around for one that suits you better!
The next reading will cover Ends: An Introduction (pp. 1321-1325) and Part U: Fake Preferences (pp. 1329-1356). The discussion will go live on Wednesday, 24 February 2016, right here on the discussion forum of LessWrong.
This is part of a semi-monthly reading group on Eliezer Yudkowsky's ebook, Rationality: From AI to Zombies. For more information about the group, see the announcement post.
Welcome to the Rationality reading group. This fortnight we discuss Part T: Science and Rationality (pp. 1187-1265) and Interlude: A Technical Explanation of Technical Explanation (pp. 1267-1314). This post summarizes each article of the sequence, linking to the original LessWrong post where available.
T. Science and Rationality
243. The Failures of Eld Science - A short story set in the same world as "Initiation Ceremony". Future physics students look back on the cautionary tale of quantum physics.
244. The Dilemma: Science or Bayes? - The failure of first-half-of-20th-century-physics was not due to straying from the scientific method. Science and rationality - that is, Science and Bayesianism - aren't the same thing, and sometimes they give different answers.
245. Science Doesn't Trust Your Rationality - The reason Science doesn't always agree with the exact, Bayesian, rational answer, is that Science doesn't trust you to be rational. It wants you to go out and gather overwhelming experimental evidence.
246. When Science Can't Help - If you have an idea, Science tells you to test it experimentally. If you spend 10 years testing the idea and the result comes out negative, Science slaps you on the back and says, "Better luck next time." If you want to spend 10 years testing a hypothesis that will actually turn out to be right, you'll have to try to do the thing that Science doesn't trust you to do: think rationally, and figure out the answer before you get clubbed over the head with it.
247. Science Isn't Strict Enough - Science lets you believe any damn stupid idea that hasn't been refuted by experiment. Bayesianism says there is always an exactly rational degree of belief given your current evidence, and this does not shift a nanometer to the left or to the right depending on your whims. Science is a social freedom - we let people test whatever hypotheses they like, because we don't trust the village elders to decide in advance - but you shouldn't confuse that with an individual standard of rationality.
248. Do Scientists Already Know This Stuff? - No. Maybe someday it will be part of standard scientific training, but for now, it's not, and the absence is visible.
249. No Safe Defense, Not Even Science - Why am I trying to break your trust in Science? Because you can't think and trust at the same time. The social rules of Science are verbal rather than quantitative; it is possible to believe you are following them. With Bayesianism, it is never possible to do an exact calculation and get the exact rational answer that you know exists. You are visibly less than perfect, and so you will not be tempted to trust yourself.
250. Changing the Definition of Science - Many of these ideas are surprisingly conventional, and being floated around by other thinkers. I'm a good deal less of a lonely iconoclast than I seem; maybe it's just the way I talk.
251. Faster Than Science - Is it really possible to arrive at the truth faster than Science does? Not only is it possible, but the social process of science relies on scientists doing so - when they choose which hypotheses to test. In many answer spaces it's not possible to find the true hypothesis by accident. Science leaves it up to experiment to socially declare who was right, but if there weren't some people who could get it right in the absence of overwhelming experimental proof, science would be stuck.
252. Einstein's Speed - Albert was unusually good at finding the right theory in the presence of only a small amount of experimental evidence. Even more unusually, he admitted it - he claimed to know the theory was right, even in advance of the public proof. It's possible to arrive at the truth by thinking great high-minded thoughts of the sort that Science does not trust you to think, but it's a lot harder than arriving at the truth in the presence of overwhelming evidence.
253. That Alien Message - Einstein used evidence more efficiently than other physicists, but he was still extremely inefficient in an absolute sense. If a huge team of cryptographers and physicists were examining a interstellar transmission, going over it bit by bit, we could deduce principles on the order of Galilean gravity just from seeing one or two frames of a picture. As if the very first human to see an apple fall, had, on the instant, realized that its position went as the square of the time and that this implied constant acceleration.
254. My Childhood Role Model - I looked up to the ideal of a Bayesian superintelligence, not Einstein.
255. Einstein's Superpowers - There's an unfortunate tendency to talk as if Einstein had superpowers - as if, even before Einstein was famous, he had an inherent disposition to be Einstein - a potential as rare as his fame and as magical as his deeds. Yet the way you acquire superpowers is not by being born with them, but by seeing, with a sudden shock, that they are perfectly normal.
256. Class Project - The students are given one month to develop a theory of quantum gravity.
Interlude: A Technical Explanation of Technical Explanation
This has been a collection of notes on the assigned sequence for this fortnight. The most important part of the reading group though is discussion, which is in the comments section. Please remember that this group contains a variety of levels of expertise: if a line of discussion seems too basic or too incomprehensible, look around for one that suits you better!
The next reading will cover Ends: An Introduction (pp. 1321-1325) and Part U: Fake Preferences (pp. 1329-1356). The discussion will go live on Wednesday, 24 February 2016, right here on the discussion forum of LessWrong.