Many of these are rather hard to read. The following are my even-more-slimmed down summaries based on skimming just those few paragraphs. Some may be in error, if you disagree with any let me know:
1. Argues in favor of more bioenhancement and against refusing to do bioenhancement for reasons of 'egalitarianism', though in a somewhat wishy-washy way 'we endorse a cautious proposal'.
2. Not really related to bioethics - argues in favor of pseudonymous publishing.
3. Argues in favor of 'nudging' patients to obtain consent for treatments.
4. Argues that if you favor assisted suicide when doctors do it, you should also favor it when for-profit entities do it.
5. Argues that all newborns should be screened for critical congenital heart diseases, without exemption for parental religious beliefs.
6. Tells the story of a patient who demanded his doctors do something really stupid and refused to budge. Unclear what moral, if any, they want to draw.
7. A weirdly meta paper that evaluates methods for evaluating ethics. I have no idea what this means.
8. Frets about off-label use of ketamine being worrying, recommends formal research into it combined with stricter regulation of off-label uses.
9. I have no idea what this paper is about. It tells the story of a kid called James, but I don't know what it wants to draw from it.
10. Argues against 'nudging' people to register as organ donors.
11. Argues that traditional consent is inadequate for a 'biobank' (which stores biological samples of people?) and that you should use something called a 'Participation Pact' instead.
12. Argues that bioethicists should pay attention to neuroscience?
13. Agrees with someone called Lee that bioethics and environmental ethics should be linked, but disagrees that his idea of 'public health ethics' is a good way of doing it.
14. Asks about how to allocate limited supply of a drug called nusinersen for spinal muscular atrophy patients.
15. Argues that consent to organ donation is 'vague' in harmful ways.
16. Talks about 'right-to-try' trials where terminally ill patients try untested drugs. Some waffling, I'm unclear if they approve or not.
17. Argues that diversity in researchers will help make research better.
18. Talks about what to do if your patient's relatives try to fix him with prayer and magic. Appears to argue that you should support the relatives as well as the patient.
19. Argues that conscientious objection to abortion should not keep you from being sued if your refusal causes injury.
20. Proposes a different standard for how to evaluate parent's decisions re. medical care for their children. Unclear how it differs.
21. Argues that standards for resolving e.g. disagreement between doctors and family members on what to do with an incapacitated patient should be simpler.
22. Argues that all children should get measles vaccination. Claims that this paper's conclusions 'reframe the dialog on measles vaccination...from a framework of what is owed to parents...[to] the framework of what is owed to children'. Unclear why that wasn't the framework we were in already.
23. References Gattaca, then argues (against some other bioethicist) that bioenhancement can be good if regulated.
24. Argues that 'professional guinea pigs' who participate in trials for money are being exploited by capitalism.
25. Argues that palliative care for children is currently in a very bad state, and that we should do research into it and make it better.
26. I have no idea what this paper is about. I don't think the authors do either. (EDIT: second opinion is that I'm being uncharitable here, see Kaj below).
27. Declares that a 2010 study on premature babies called SUPPORT was unethical, arguing that it placed one of its treatment groups at higher risk than they would have been without the study.
28. Talks about how to handle decision-making for unrepresented patients. Unclear what they think you should do.
29. Argues that the HEC-C program (a healthcare certification program of some kind) is good.
30. Argues that the HEC-C program (again!) should be more diverse - what they seem to mean by this is not the standard concept of 'diversity' but that it should cover a more diverse set of medical situations.
31. Argues that informed consent is 'nonsense' because people sometimes believe multiple different things.
32. Argues (against some other bioethicists) that you do not need consent from a patient to test whether they are brain-dead.
33. Book review of a book arguing that medical ethics 'cannot be regarded as an extension of common morality' and must be treated as a completely different thing.
Having article-by-article summaries seems useful here. And since none of us have read most of these articles, this might be a good use case for a Google Doc, so different people can improve on summaries if they spot an error.
Here's a Google Doc that starts with aphyer's summaries and allows for article-specific follow-ups: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmrrTlWLxseSfudS7IWPMEFUWrLoSewFXOjj2ilwFPA/edit. If you add something to the Google Doc, I encourage mentioning it in this comment section so others can be notified.
I'll also add a link to the Google Doc in the OP.
Some people might also prefer the Google Doc format for critiquing particular articles, and not just summarizing? Whether in the Doc or on LW, I want to encourage people to critique specific articles or arguments if something catches their eye, so we don't stay at too high a level of generality to notice subtle errors or biases, disagreements with other LWers, etc.
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My own responses to aphyer's summaries:
1. Argues in favor of more bioenhancement and against refusing to do bioenhancement for reasons of 'egalitarianism', though in a somewhat wishy-washy way 'we endorse a cautious proposal'.
This and the other bioenhancement paper were written by Julian Savulescu, who studied under Peter Singer and co-edited a book with Nick Bostrom.
3. Argues in favor of 'nudging' patients to obtain consent for treatments.
Also argues that informed consent is based on “social conventions” rather than on theories of autonomy.
4. Argues that if you favor assisted suicide when doctors do it, you should also favor it when for-profit entities do it.
Treats it as obvious that commercially assisted suicide is a terrible idea; therefore physician-assisted suicide is bad too.
6. Tells the story of a patient who demanded his doctors do something really stupid and refused to budge. Unclear what moral, if any, they want to draw.
I revisited the paper itself to find the main morals it draws:
(1) Even though paternalism is theoretically a bad idea when a patient "has been judged competent to make his or her own decisions", this example shows that there can be practical, case-by-case reasons to be unusually pushy in trying to change patients’ minds.
(2) Normally, doctors and patients are basically strangers. The "ethics consulation process" provides an opportunity to build a higher-trust relationship and/or build a mutual understanding allowing for this kind of useful paternalism.
7. A weirdly meta paper that evaluates methods for evaluating ethics. I have no idea what this means.
From a part of the paper that wasn’t excerpted: “This project was undertaken in response to a growing concern both within and outside the field of clinical ethics that CE consultants who interact with patients, families, and health care professionals need to demonstrate competency to respond effectively to ethics consultation requests (Fox 2014, Dubler et al. 2009). Responding ‘effectively’ raises the question of what constitutes ‘quality’ in ethics consultation. While there has been historic value in the field placed on preserving a diversity of approaches to ethics consultation, diversity should not preclude evaluation of quality. Clinical ethics must continue to embrace diversity of approaches while sharpening our commitment to measurement of quality.”
The proposal is to assess quality by evaluating a portfolio consisting of the candidate’s eductional background, "a written summary of the candidate's philosophy" of clinical ethics consulation, letters of recommendation, and the "centerpiece of the portfolio": "six in-depth, detailed case discussions in which the candidate led or co-led the ethics consulation". Since there are a lot of open questions and disagreements in bioethics, "presentation of arguments regarding controversies was given credit as long as they were argued clearly and coherently".
9. I have no idea what this paper is about. It tells the story of a kid called James, but I don't know what it wants to draw from it.
A hospital has insufficient staffing over the weekends, forcing them to switch a patient to a worse therapy. The paper argues that this is ethically unacceptable, and the hospital should have foreseen this possibility and sent the patient to a better-staffed hospital at the outset.
On an unrelated side-note, the paper asks whether the “worse therapy” is actually worse, noting that there’s disagreement/ambiguity in the medical literature.
10. Argues against 'nudging' people to register as organ donors.
Also argues for “mandated active choice,” which “presents people with the choice of registering as an organ donor or not, and requires them to make a decision, for example, by making the renewal of their driver’s license conditional on them stating their donation preference.”
12. Argues that bioethicists should pay attention to neuroscience?
And that they should do less theoretical work, and engage more with real-world specifics and stakeholders’ views.
E.g. (from the paper itself): “since deep brain stimulation (DBS) trials for treating motor disorders such as Parkinson’s disease and other neuropsychiatric disorders began almost 25 years ago, there have been hundreds of theoretical papers about numerous possible ethical challenges (e.g., dehumanization, loss of autonomy, changes to personal identity, authenticity of affective states, how to obtain meaningful informed consent, therapeutic misconception, human enhancement). However, in 25 years of work on DBS there is a surprisingly small amount of empirical literature about the perspectives and experiences of stakeholders (e.g., patient-participants, caregivers, clinical trial or treatment decliners, clinicians, researchers) regarding these neuroethics issues and whether and how these issues are manifested.”
16. Talks about 'right-to-try' trials where terminally ill patients try untested drugs. Some waffling, I'm unclear if they approve or not.
The paper is opposed to right-to-try, and warns that “the use of investigational drugs may gradually turn into fantasy therapy”.
20. Proposes a different standard for how to evaluate parent's decisions re. medical care for their children. Unclear how it differs.
The “best interest standard” says that a parental decision should be respected if "a reasonable argument [can] be offered that the decision is best for the child, all things considered", and if the decision does not expose the child to obvious risk of harm.
The paper objects that (a) a lot of terrible practices can be 'reasonably argued for' if you start with trash assumptions (e.g., religion); and (b) some harms are worth the benefits.
The paper instead recommends the “reasonable subject standard”, which says "parents should decide for their child as the child would if she were a moral agent trying to act prudently within the constraints of morality".
28. Talks about how to handle decision-making for unrepresented patients. Unclear what they think you should do.
Argues that "the multi-stakeholder process is ethically superior to solo decision making": "solo decisions about what is in a patient's best interest run a serious risk of being arbitrary or biased, even if both the physician and the surrogate make their respective decisions after careful consideration".
30. Argues that the HEC-C program (again!) should be more diverse - what they seem to mean by this is not the standard concept of 'diversity' but that it should cover a more diverse set of medical situations.
Specific objections include:
The paper authors haven’t taken the HEC-C examination, but they’re worried it might have similar flaws to a more standard examination, USMLE, where “questions do not depict complex ethical situations to critically think through and resolve, the content is often based on federal laws and regulations rather than ethical rules, students are prompted to either choose the ‘next best step’ or the most plausible answer that tests students’ reading comprehension more than their ethical knowledge, and correct answers often contradict the reality of patient care in clinical settings.”
Worries that curriculum standardization “restricts diversity of shared ideas and experiences”, that HEC-C focuses too much on inpatient settings, and that the $650 fee for taking the test is too high.
They want less reliance on multiple-choice questions. They support “introducing short answer questions on the HEC-C examination, and we strongly recommend a standardized patient or mock consultation component by which communication skills, including empathic responses, are assessed, as well as, how well participants are able to ‘read the environment’ and the overall context of the presented ethical issue.”
31. Argues that informed consent is 'nonsense' because people sometimes believe multiple different things.
Rather, the author thinks it’s nonsense because people have different social roles and relationships, and because goodness is about what serves the group, not about what the individual wants or consents to.
More from the paper: “Everything I do is affected by and affects others—for good or for ill. And if this conclusion is philosophically or politically uncomfortable, well, tough: we are all members of society; we’ve all put our signature to some form of social contract. [... B]ecause of the kinds of animals humans are, the good of society will also be the good of the individual. [... P]art of the job of ethics and law is to help a person’s subjective conception of the good coincide with the objective good. That is best achieved by facilitating recognition of the fact that the individual patient’s good is the wider good. This accords well with what we know empirically about the roots of human happiness. Altruism and relationality make people happy. Selfishness makes them miserable. (Foster and Herring 2015). That’s what one would expect if the relational model of human beings is correct.”
26. I have no idea what this paper is about. I don't think the authors do either.
That sounds a little harsh. From trying to read it, I felt like the main difficulty was that the authors assumed the reader to know what "the ethical and conceptual framework (ECF)" and "a learning health‐care system (LHS)" were. But they did open with a pretty clear list of questions they said the article was about:
(a) What is the difference between practice and research? (b) What is the relationship between research ethics and clinical ethics? (c) What is the ethical relevance of the principle of clinical equipoise? (d) Does participation in research require a higher standard of informed consent than the practice of medicine? and (e) What ethical principle should take precedence in medicine?
Some of these were a little unclear to me (I don't know what the "principle of clinical equipoise" is), but again that just reflects my lack of knowledge rather than any problem with the authors.
In case anybody else doesn't know the definition seems to be "Clinical and personal equipoise exists when a clinician has no good basis for a choice between two or more care options or when one is truly uncertain about the overall benefit or harm offered by the treatment to his/her patient."
If that principle holds you are not allowed to run replication trials because in a replication trial you already have a good basis for believing that one of the groups gets a better treatment.
I'll agree that I worded it pretty harshly, but I do think I'll stand by it not being a useful paper. Imagine a science paper that claimed to be about the following list of questions:
a) What is the difference between iron and xenon? b) What is the relationship between solid matter and gaseous matter? c) What is the practical relevance of the principle of least action? d) Does investigating radioactive materials require different experimental procedures than investigating other physics? e) What kind of statistics should be used in physics papers?
Assuming that we weren't clear on the answers to those hypothetical questions, they do seem like they'd be important to address? You could fairly argue that trying to address all of them was packing too much content into a single paper, but then even raising them for the purpose of drawing attention to them could be useful.
I do think that packing five separate questions into one paper is too much, but also going through those questions one at a time:
(a) What is the difference between practice and research?
This question seems...obviously stupid? It might be intended as a Socratic lead-in of some sort, I suppose.
(b) What is the relationship between research ethics and clinical ethics?
This question seems extremely vague. I can imagine related sub-questions that could be meaningful: e.g. 'does research need to use different ethical standards than clinical ethics' (like (d) below), 'does research need separate ethical regulations from clinical treatment, or can it use the same ones', 'should clinicians be worried about the ethics of researchers who give them treatments/vice versa', but in the absence of a more specific question I'm not clear on what this means or what an answer would be.
(c) What is the ethical relevance of the principle of clinical equipoise?
I hadn't heard of this. Per Christian's answer above it might be a reasonable question, although it seems a bit tautological asking for the ethical relevance of a principle if the principle itself is an ethical principle. Still willing to accept it as a probably-okay question.
(d) Does participation in research require a higher standard of informed consent than the practice of medicine?
This is a good question. If it were the only question in the paper I would like it.
(e) What ethical principle should take precedence in medicine?
We take a kind of abrupt turn here into a very high-level meta-question. It's weird to combine this with a bunch of lower-level questions, and even weirder to put it at the end - surely if you need to decide what ethical principle to use that needs to be the first thing you do?
So I think we've got either 2 or 3 reasonable questions muddled together into one paper along with some silly/poorly defined ones. Then, looking at the ending, the main thrust of their conclusion appears to be 'our approach is useless for thinking about these questions':
It can be concluded that [our approach] has not provided us with conceptual instruments that would resolve the ethical debate between proponents of the segregation and integration models...
...[our approach] also does nothing to resolve the problem of a researcher's clinical obligation. Rather, it creates a new source of moral obligation: a health‐care system. Next, [our approach] seems not to resolve the controversy over the concept of clinical equipoise.
I am overall not very impressed by this paper. I don't think it sounds actively evil or anything, I just think it sounds like a waste of (a great deal of) paper.
Provisional: a few weeks ago, the LW magic recommendation feed showed me this EY article about bioethics being stupid, from a while back. I was somewhat persuaded by his point. Your random sample seems to strongly confirm his model/hypothesis:
A doctor treating a patient should not try to be academically original, to come up with a brilliant new theory of bioethics. As I’ve written before, ethics is not supposed to be counterintuitive, and yet academic ethicists are biased to be just exactly counterintuitive enough that people won’t say, “Hey, I could have thought of that.” The purpose of ethics is to shape a well-lived life, not to be impressively complicated. Professional ethicists, to get paid, must transform ethics into something difficult enough to require professional ethicists.
Many of these papers seem to be doing exactly that, or to just be arguing with some other bioethicist who is doing that. The pullquotes you put in the body of your post certainly make it look like a diseased discipline. These people are just writing op/eds at each other, as far as I can tell.
I only got about halfway through your post because it all seemed aggressively uninteresting to anyone who is not an academic bioethicist. And I like reading philosophy of religion!
Finally, I think it's totally nuts that people assert that nudges are, or even can be, per se unethical. But I think maybe I need to do a full-on post about that after reading up on the issue. Upon reflection, I'm withdrawing this claim because a) it's not germane to the main post or my comment and b) I'm always complaining in my head about people posting contentious claims on LW without any support, so I shouldn't do that, either.
[edited to add a link to the Diseased Discipline article.]
I think it's totally nuts that people assert that nudges are, or even can be, per se unethical.
A nudge is an imposition of cost on the non-nudged action. I think it's pretty easy to argue that intentional imposition of cost/difficulty is unethical by default. Specific nudges can still be positive, if there is evidence that they provide more moral value in the prevention of error than in the friction they bring.
I agree it’s a nuanced issue to think about, but a nudge isn’t just the imposition of a cost. It’s removing a cost for the nudged action. In the abstract, there’s no reason it should be easier to make A easier than B or vice versa.
So to argue that this is problematic, you’d have to show why based on the specifics of each case.
Finally, I think it's totally nuts that people assert that nudges are, or even can be, per se unethical. But I think maybe I need to do a full-on post about that after reading up on the issue.
It's not that different from what you read in LessWrong in a upvoted comment like https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iu4Tkhusazy2xFiFH/why-is-rhetoric-taboo-among-rationalists?commentId=3Gbamb4EufAiTGxmH
Yep, and I disagree with the "sin" framing in that answer but scratched out my line about nudges in the comment above because it was half-baked. I've added the claim to my list of planned posts.
I like the edit. Be the person who you want to see in the world. Also visibly model behaviors you want to encourage.
Thanks
In fairness, some of the papers appear to have been written by doctors/hospital workers who had a problematic situation (patient was insisting on a bad treatment, refused the right treatments) that they reflected on and had an opinion to share. Doctors thinking about these dilemmas afterwards sounds useful, maybe the "achievement unlocked, papers published +1" gamification incentives them to reflect better on these issues. In theory another doctor might read the paper and learn something they later apply to a similar situation, although my suspicion is this is unlikely.
Although the number of papers replying to replies is worrying. If someone publishes a paper that says "X", then someone else publishes a paper saying "not X", then the first publishes another paper saying "no, really actually X", then it really doesn't look like progress. Especially if the third paper (as appears to be the case) doesn't bring any new evidence to the table. Maybe if paper 1 was correct, but not as convincing as it should have been paper 3 has a role.
Interested to hear people's high-level takeaways (even if they're only provisional), things that did and didn't surprise you, etc.
This was exactly what I expected. The problem with the field of bioethics has never been the papers being 100% awful, but how it operates in the real world, the asymmetry of interventions, and what its most consequential effects have been. I would have thought 2020 made this painfully clear. (That is, my grandmother did not die of coronavirus while multiple highly-safe & highly-effective vaccines sat on the shelf unused, simply because some bioethicist screwed up a p-value in a paper somewhere. If only!)
The actual day-to-day churn of publishing bioethics papers/research... Well, HHGttG said it best in describing humans in general:
Mostly Harmless.
I expected to find them mostly trash. I updated strongly in two ways: 1. A surprising proportion seemed like a reasonable use of time (as a topic to investigate or seek improvements in. Maybe 1/4) 2. Of that 1/4, a few seem high impact enough that it's worth the other 75% being crap.
I'm sort of surprised other people are surprised that bioethics is not uniformly trash. (This includes people on Facebook and elsewhere where this has come up.)
I know that bioethics has a terrible reputation around these parts and also know there do in fact exist lots of terrible bioethics takes (e.g. I want to personally fight the author of paper #31), but even though I had not previously actually looked at a sample of bioethics papers, I somewhat strongly suspected that rationalists who railed against bioethics were overgeneralizing.* It's not impossible for an academic field to have such bad epistemic standards and Overton windows for that generalization to be accurate, and obviously the bioethics Overton window is different from the rationalist Overton window (and I mostly prefer the latter), but "these terrible takes are within the bioethics Overton window" is not very strong evidence for "these terrible takes are representative of bioethics as a whole", and I would have been moderately surprised if it had turned out that all or even most of the takes were that flavor of terrible.
(Unfortunately I did not register this prior anywhere; I mostly did not try to argue with people about it because I had not actually looked at enough bioethics to be well informed about it or have strong arguments to make. I realize it's kind of bad form for me to be like "I predicted this!!" when I did not say that anywhere, sorry. I don't really want people to update on my correctness from this, anyway, my point is mostly that I think local discourse on this topic has been too unnuanced.)
*For that matter, sometimes people saying such things even agree when pressed that they're overgeneralizing; there's a sort of motte-and-bailey that I've seen (with both this and other examples) that's like "bioethicists suck" "not all bioethicists" "well of course I don't mean ALL, I mean too many". But apparently a community in which people generalize about bioethicists in this way is also a community in which people are surprised when a sample of bioethics papers is not uniformly trash?
(I guess that part might be kind of unfair of me since possibly the people who agreed they were overgeneralizing would have expected something like 80% of papers to be very terrible, in which case it's both true that they're overgeneralizing and that this actual sample is a notable update.)
I had an interesting emotional experience of a sense of relief: after getting used to so many shouting-matches about controversial topics on social media, I'd almost forgotten what it's like to witness a community of people actually doing careful and nuanced ethical thinking. "Had my faith in humanity restored" is a bit of a silly cliché but for a moment it did feel like that.
It looks like the average academic bioethicist is ok (with high variance), and is not having much effect outside academia.
Like lawyers, the bioethicists we hear about the most are the ones defending the least ethical clients.
Are the less conspicuous bioethicists doing the equivalent of mundane, mildly beneficial lawyers who write contracts? Or are they mostly engaged in intellectual masturbation?
I'm unclear on why I'd hire a bioethicist unless I was trying to defend behavior that looks unethical. Which suggests that there isn't much demand for bioethicists to do constructive things.
I'm unclear on why I'd hire a bioethicist unless I was trying to defend behavior that looks unethical. Which suggests that there isn't much demand for bioethicists to do constructive things.
From the LessWrong perspective most of the complaints about bioethics seems to be about them standing the the way of research. If you could hire a bioethicist to green-light your vaccine challenge study it seems to me like the bioethicist would do constructive work.
The idea is that people hire bioethicists because they are rent seeking and have pushed for certain decisions to require input of bioethicists.
These papers were mostly unoffensive and not that terrible in contrast to expectations. At the same time, I do not get any impression of relevant expertise either such that I feel good about this group being in a privileged position regarding any kind of ethics decision. They aren’t bad, just… not good enough.
I do notice (from comparing to the circa 2000 batch of papers) that value drift makes older papers seem much much worse than they would've seemed at the time. I expect 80s or 90s era papers would produce the kind of revulsion many folks were expecting.
At the same time, I do not get any impression of relevant expertise either such that I feel good about this group being in a privileged position regarding any kind of ethics decision.
I've cross-posted a relevant excerpt from Julia Galef's Feb. 2021 interview of Matt Yglesias here: Julia Galef and Matt Yglesias on bioethics and "ethics expertise".
Yeah, that's pretty on the nose. Even suppose you trust your philosophers and ethicists work through the merits of all the possible ethics frameworks we could use. Let them pick the best one, specify how different utilities should be framed; they'd still never be the right people to implement it in any specific decision. Real world ethics problems are still 95% other problem domains and 5% ethics.
The interview does beg more questions than it answers though. Obviously consequentialist ethics have some traction among philosophy experts. Is bioethics different for some reason? Are the vocal people shouting down these (obviously correct given consequentialist ethics) ideas on twitter and in the news even in any relevant field? Does the consensus of the field, if any, bear any relation to public policy whatsoever, or are experts merely being cherry picked to toe the party line as needed and lend credibility after a decision is made?
I think part of the explanation is 'most consequentialists in professional philosophy dislike utilitarianism' and 'there are lots of deontologists too (in general, somewhat more deontologists than consequentialists)'.
You're right again I think. As far as dislike of utilitarianism not entirely without cause in some cases; while "make ethics math" is a really good idea it seems surpisingly difficult to formalize without wierd artifacts - as a not insubstantial volume of posts on this site can attest. I imagine at least some of that resistance goes away as soon as someone perfects a formalism that doesn't occasionally suggest outlandish behavior and has all the properties we want.
value drift makes older papers seem much much worse than they would've seemed at the time.
I don't think 'value drift' is the explanation for this.
Speaking specifically to the difference between the newer and older batch of papers. Neither are good. In my admitedly breif skim, the older ones have an extra layer of dissonance for the same reason 20 year old TV and movies can come across as unexpectedly cringey.
I'm struck by how different people have such different responses to the list. Kaj felt like zir faith in humanity was restored; I rolled my eyes really hard and may have sighed or groaned. This caused me to moderately update in the direction of "I was being uncharitable".
There are two sources of variance that make it a bit hard to update on others' impressions. Imagine a Scholarly Goodness scale like this:
10 - physics
9 - economics; other pretty-good fields
8 - mediocre well-functioning scientific fields
7 - normal fields that only have medium-sized replication crises
6 - medicine; other fields with catastrophically large replication crises
5 - social psychology
4 - journalism; criminology
3 - normal, relatively calm Twitter arguments
2 - philosophy of religion; loud angry Twitter arguments
1 - Scientology propaganda
First, some people may have higher expectations than others. Maybe (making up numbers) Kaj and you both now think bioethics is a 5, but previously Kaj expected it to be a 4 while you expected it to be a 5, so he comes away with a happy surprise while you come away exasperated with the social-psych-tier shoddiness.
Second, some people may have higher standards than others. If your standard is 'better than Twitter' (say, 'above 2.5'), then counting up to 5 might feel downright refreshing. If your standard is 'meeting the bare-minimum level of econoliteracy and quantitativeness to not yield norms and institutions that cause millions of unnecessary COVID-19 deaths or the senseless death and disability of hundreds of infants', then you're applying a different test to the papers.
I think there are also different orientations to take here, like 'bioethics has a job to do; are they getting the job done?' versus 'bioethicists are human beings with thoughts and ideas; how interesting do I find the thoughts and ideas?'. I think both frames should be in the mix: even if you come away from this still thinking bioethics is a diseased discipline, seeing the sausage get made makes it clearer how smart, well-intentioned people could end up in a situation like that.
It's less "othering"; I could imagine friends of mine in philosophy and social science starting a field that ends up causing similar problems in society.
As an aside, I find it bizarre that Economics gets put at 9 - I think a review of what gets done in top econ journals would cause you to update that number down by at least 1. (It's not usually very bad, but it's often mostly useless.) And I think it's clear that lots of Econ does, in fact, have a replication crisis. (But we'll if see that is true as some of the newer replication projects actually come out with results.)
I guess I was thinking of 9/10 as a relatively low bar in the grand scheme of things ("pretty good"), and placing it so far from journalism (etc.) to express my low regard for the latter more so than my high regard for econ. But it sounds like it may belong lower on the scale regardless.
Yeah, I might have spent a bit too much time on Twitter recently so my comparison point was around 2-3.
More specifically, I think I got the reaction while reading abstract #4, comparing commercially-assisted and physician-assisted suicide. What I felt so strongly was the contrast of
1) seeing a paper calmly working through all the relevant facts and concluding that if you think physician-assisted suicide is okay, you should also consider commercially-assisted suicide okay
vs.
2) my mental image of the Twitter mob you might summon if you even considered the possibility that commercially-assisted suicide might be okay
Sounds like we need a social media site where all top-level posts must just be links to papers, and you can only reply to top-level posts, not to other replies. :)
This is a much better response than my comment deserved! I feel embarrassed about the disparity (not your fault; don't stop leaving great comments just because the OP half-assed it). I think I'm still trying to find the right balance between "volume of comments and posts ~ liveliness of overall discussion" and "bulletproofness of comments and posts ~ quality of overall discussion".
Most commenters seemed surprised by the quality of the 33 bioethics papers I sampled. This made me wonder if our views might just be out-of-date — describing the bioethics of a few decades ago, rather than the field as it existed in 2014-2020. Luke Muehlhauser's review of the history of bioethics says:
- Another source of annoyance [for doctors] may have been that bioethicists of the time tended to be more theological and deontological (i.e. less utilitarian), and more cautious about developing and deploying new medical capabilities, compared to doctors.[10]
- The early laws and court decisions related to bioethics continue to have an outsized effect,[11] though bioethicists today are probably more diverse than they were in the earliest years of bioethics, and (e.g.) many of them are explicitly utilitarian.
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The Rockefeller Foundation provided substantial initial funding for the Hastings Center, the first major institute focused on bioethics. As the Hastings Center grew during the 1970s, it continued to be substantially funded by philanthropists.[14] Among other early activities, the Hastings Center hired some staff researchers, organized workshops, created a visiting scholars program, and created The Hastings Center Report, which soon became the leading journal in the field.[15]
The Hastings Center Report is still listed as one of the highest-impact-factor medical ethics journals, so I decided to sample ten random papers they released in 2000 to see if these better fit my and other LWers' stereotypes about the field. A few caveats:
The random papers this time:
1. Richard H. Nicholson. "'If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.'" The Hastings Center Report 30(1). Old World News.
[...] The most important conclusion of the workshop was that, given its worldwide acceptance, it would be a serious mistake to rewrite the Declaration of Helsinki.
[...] It was generally felt that the question of when placebos or “best proven treatment” may be used was determined by the physician’s fundamental duty to do his best for each individual patient, from which derives the ethical concept of equipoise. Clinical trials are only ethical when there is genuine uncertainty as to which arm of the trial will prove better. Several workshop participants— including Robert Temple, director of drug evaluation at the FDA—argued that the low risk to subjects justifies the use of placebo arms in clinical trials when effective treatments are available and equipoise is therefore impossible. But that puts the interests of science and society before the interests of the research subject, which is prohibited by the Declaration, and the physician fails in his duty to do his best for the patient.
2. Robert Zussman. "The Contributions of Sociology to Medical Ethics." The Hastings Center Report 30(1). Original Articles.
[...] A good deal of medical ethics is based on consequentialist claims that social scientists are well equipped to assess. If an ethical claim is based on the assertion that a practice or arrangement is ethically questionable because it results in a particular outcome, then that claim is empirically testable. Philosophical medical ethicists rarely mount those tests themselves. Social scientists, whether using ethnographic methods, reviews of records, or survey instruments, can test those claims.
3. James Lindemann Nelson. "Moral Teachings from Unexpected Quarters: Lessons for Bioethics from the Social Sciences and Managed Care." The Hastings Center Report 30(1). Original Articles.
[...] The social sciences might make a contribution to bioethics by helping the field’s practitioners understand better what’s behind its deeply installed respect for individual autonomy and whether it has assumed more the character of an ideology than a moral philosophy.
[...] Bioethical interventions into health care practice have tended to rely on rational persuasion based on arguments about values—that is to say, on the kind of educative models familiar in university settings, addressed in the main to individuals. Bioethical pedagogy thus chimes with the individualist approach that characterizes so much of mainstream ethics. An approach to both analysis and action that looks less at individuals, and more at the characteristics of institutions and how they shape human response, surely seems worth trying in SUPPORT’s wake.
[... A]t the economic level, managed care relies on the notion of the person as a consumer, as a savvy bargainer in the marketplace. But at the level of service provision, managed care—particularly when it takes the form of an HMO—suggests that people can be responsive to other, less individualist concerns, that they are willing to subordinate some of their own interests to ensure the viability and flourishing of the whole.
[...] It is fairly patent that an appreciation of the character of social structures, of the “cultures” that operate within them, and of their relationship to broader aspects of society are bioethically pertinent matters for which the tools of social scientific inquiry are key. However, the values and sensibilities that are prevalent in the social sciences may make an even bigger contribution. For example, seeing potential moral interest and perhaps even insight in at least some forms of managed care might well be easier for bioethicists if their assessment of fee-for-service financing was tempered with the kind of suspicion about professions that have been an important part of sociology. One’s willingness to see collectivist approaches as in principle at least on a par with individualist assessments of medical ethics might also be easier to achieve if one better appreciated the moral significance of social and group relations as social scientists not infrequently do.
4. Joanne Silberner. "A Gene Therapy Death." The Hastings Center Report 30(2). Capital Report.
It was what the New York Times headlined a “biotech death.” Eighteen-year-old Jesse Gelsinger died four days after receiving gene therapy for a rare metabolic disorder. It was also the first death associated with gene therapy. As details of the experiment and the death unfolded, with often contradictory information, the field of gene experimentation appeared neither orderly nor well regulated.
[...] On the national level the episode has sparked a closer look at a field that is increasingly lightly regulated even though many gene therapy protocols have corporate sponsors. Some insiders are questioning former NIH director Harold Varmus’s decision to change the RAC’s status from regulatory to advisory. Several politicians notified Varmus of their concerns. In January the FDA halted all gene therapy trials at Penn. And Congress is considering whether it should get involved in oversight of the young field.
5. Joanne Silberner. "Health Care and the Presidential Election." The Hastings Center Report 30(4). Capital Report.
[...] Polls have ranked health care fairly high as an issue that’s important to voters, and the number of those uninsured is up to 44 million. As of this writing, however, health care has yet to be a galvanizing issue. Looking back at the last few elections, I’m afraid this year is going to be another case of much noise and little action.
On a personal note, this is my last Capital Report. A column is a chance for a journalist to stretch and vent a little, and I’ve enjoyed it. But I’ve run out of fresh ways to complain about Washington’s inability to come up with a workable health plan, or a good organ transplant policy, or effective safety standards for gene therapy.
6. "Chaplain's Role in End of Life Care." The Hastings Center Report 30(5). Letters.
[...] Chaplains are committed to ministering to the spiritual needs of the patient as defined by the patient.
[...] But most patients have had little experience with hospital chaplains. We must not base care for the dying on the assumption that everyone—Hindus, Jews, Moslems, Buddhists, and atheists (including some who have struggled for years to free themselves from a Christianity they considered pernicious)— should recognize that they need to call on the Christian chaplain if they want help in dealing with spiritual issues at the end of life.
7. "The Million Dollar Question." The Hastings Center Report 30(5). Case Study.
M.C. is a seven-year-old girl diagnosed with relapsed acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL). She lives in a Third World country in South America. A few months after her diagnosis M.C., with her parents and younger brother, presented to the emergency room of a large Catholic teaching hospital in the United States[....]
Currently the hospital has incurred costs of $800,000 for M.C.’s care[....]
The hospital administration has requested an “ethics consult” to decide what to do. [... It] wonders whether the hospital must continue to provide uncompensated care for M.C. If it performs the [bone marrow transplant], then given its current financial situation, layoffs of up to fifteen employees will probably be necessary to offset the additional financial losses.
[...] Commentary by Lauren S. Cobbs: [...] I believe it was appropriate and indeed obligatory to admit M.C., evaluate her, and begin some form of chemotherapy. Actively pursuing therapeutic options beyond this point, however, and specifically pursuing BMT, led to an ethical gray zone. Given her aspergillus sinusitis, M.C.’s prognosis for survival with cure following BMT is reduced so as to be comparable to that for repeat intensive chemotherapy following first relapse. [... B]ecause other equivalent therapies are available and no reasonable option has been made completely unavailable, the clinicians and the institution are under no direct moral obligation to pursue BMT.
[...] Commentary by Peter A. Clark: [...] It was not only medically but ethically and legally obligatory to admit, evaluate, and diagnose M.C. when she came to the emergency room. However, after diagnosing her condition and stabilizing her, M.C. should have been referred to her home country for further treatment.
[... The hospital] does not have a moral obligation to provide a bone marrow transplant if this would generate large financial losses and jeopardize the safety and quality of care available to other patients and to the community as a whole. There is an ethical obligation to continue medical treatment once it has been initiated and determined to be beneficial, but the extenuating circumstances in this case limit that obligation.
[...] No one can be obliged to do what is impossible to do. It is certainly unjust that all people do not have equal access to health care resources; however, this is the reality of our present situation. As a matter of justice, we have an obligation to distribute the medical resources available in a manner that will bring about a reasonable balance of benefits and burdens. No hospital can be obligated to act in a manner that would threaten its ability to sustain its mission of providing health care for the good of society.
[...] Commentary by Margherita Brusa: [...] In the similar case five years ago, the hospital was apparently able to provide treatment. M.C.’s parents could not have known that the hospital’s economic situation had changed. They believed that the first treatment had set a precedent and that they had reason to expect similar treatment. That line of reasoning corresponded to a conception of justice that holds that like cases should be treated alike. Moreover, if they felt that failure to treat would be a form of discrimination, they would have felt justified in threatening to bring the case to the attention of the press.
In fact, a decision to withhold treatment would carry graver consequences than a decision to treat: without treatment, the child will die; the institution will risk bringing scandal to its Catholic identity; and the bad publicity associated with a decision to withhold treatment would harm the hospital’s and its workers’ ability to thrive in a competitive health care marketplace.
Weighing the potential harms and benefits for both the patient and the hospital leads to the following conclusion. The hospital has a prima facie obligation to provide the best care possible to all who present themselves for care. That prima facie obligation can be overridden if the hospital does not have sufficient resources to provide an optimal level of care to all its patients, particularly those who do not have a specific claim on the hospital’s resources allocated for care for the indigent. However, considering the prima facie obligation to treat, coupled with the facts that the funds may be raised over time to cover the expenses and that the negative publicity of denying care would also harm the institution, the appropriate decision in this case is to complete the treatment.
8. Kathi E. Hanna. "Research Ethics: Reports, Scandals, Calls for Change." The Hastings Center Report 30(6). Capital Report.
Protecting individuals who participate in research, although a requirement for federal research grantees for over twenty years, is suddenly a hot topic in some Washington circles. The renewed attention is the fallout from a recent series of events—some tragic and some trivial. For those who thought that the days of the Tuskegee syphilis study and Willowbrook were long gone, more recent events, although not of the same magnitude, have reminded policymakers that not all is well in the world of biomedical and behavioral research.
[...] Thus the most recent round of public scrutiny followed the death of eighteen-year-old Jesse Gelsinger during a gene transfer study at the University of Pennsylvania. Before that was the revelation that researchers with the Department of Veterans Affairs in West Los Angeles were performing risky research without obtaining subjects’ consent, and in the background were shutdowns of federally funded research at seven major research universities. Although no one had died at these research sites, the suspensions, meted out by the federal Office for Protection from Research Risks (OPRR), were a red flag that a pattern of disregard for the regulations existed that had to be corrected.
9. Farhat Moazam. "Families, Patients, and Physicians in Medical Decisionmaking: A Pakistani Perspective." The Hastings Center Report 30(6). Original Articles.
In Pakistan, as in many non‐Western cultures, decisions about a patient's health care are often made by the family or the doctor. For doctors educated in the West, the Pakistani approach requires striking a balance between preserving indigenous values and carving out room for patients to participate in their medical decisions.
10. Dena Davis. "Groups, Communities, and Contested Identities in Genetic Research." The Hastings Center Report 30(6). Original Articles.
[... E]ven if we were to agree with Charles Weijer that the three principles of research ethics (beneficence, distributive justice, respect for persons) need to be updated to include a fourth principle of respect for communities,[40] it would be quite difficult to know what that means. Does “respecting a community” mean deference to its “legitimate political authority” (p. 510) even if only the males in the community vote?
[... T]hus despite the attractions of the call for community consent for genetic research, I conclude that it is a notion too deeply flawed to be given effect.
Curated.
I think LessWrong has had a recurring theme of "bioethics sucks." I very much liked the sanity check of "what, is the thing that people are vaguely saying sucks exactly?"
I appreciated the methodology of grabbing a bunch of random papers, to get a sense of the breadth of the field. I also liked the followup of checking what the field was like a decade+ ago. I think that doing a bunch of research gruntwork is still underrewarded at LessWrong and part of the reason I'm curating this is to "subsidize" that a bit.
Meanwhile, it seemed from the comments that a number of people updated in interesting ways.
Finally, though, I appreciate gwern's followup comment that this isn't really the most important thing about bioethics as a field. i.e. what sort of decisions end up getting made when humanity faces a crisis is more important than what papers get written.
Huh. Given the negative reputation of bioethics around here -- one I hadn't much questioned, TBH -- most of these are suprisingly reasonable. Only #10, #16, and #24 really seemed like the LW stereotype of the bioethics paper that I would roll my eyes at. Arguably also #31, but I'd argue that one is instead alarming in a different way.
Some others seemed like bureaucratic junk (so, neither good nor bad), and others I think the quoted sections didn't really give enough information to judge; it is quite possible that a few more of these would go under the stereotype list if I read these papers further.
#1 is... man, why does it have to be so hostile? The argument it's making is basically a counter-stereotypical bioethics argument, but it's written in such a hostile manner. That's not the way to have a good discussion!
Also, I'm quite amused to see that #3 basically argues that we need what I've previously referred to here as a "theory of legitimate influence", for what appear likely to be similar reasons (although again I didn't read the full thing to inspect this in more detail).
I have a practicing bioethical consultant on my team, and I have very much realized that the rationalsphere is unduly prejudiced against the field. This paper set confirms that for me, since my reading in the field is due entirely to selection bias.
Bioethics is, in my opinion, healthier than philosophy in that it more often requires coming to a decision on a current moral question.
Notice, however, that Bioethics papers will skew in a way that bioethical consultants will not. In general people in the field have an additional specialty/ practice like law, clinical research, hospital management, drug research, social work, psychology, and, of course, academia. I think this diversity of professions with actual jobs to perform, makes the field more healthy (but perhaps less coherent) than Eliezer and Alex Tabarrok realize.
A higher number of these papers are at least on interesting and consequential questions, even if the authors fumble, than one finds in philosophy.
I would expect bioethics to be healthier than theoretical ethics, for reasons related to "it more often requires coming to a decision on a current moral question": decisions feel more consequential and you get more feedback on the impact of ideas.
I'm not sure I'd expect bioethics to be healthier than the average Anglophone-philosophy subfield. I predict that adding morality to the mix makes humans get the wrong answer a lot more than they otherwise would, for a variety of reasons: emotions run higher; there's more temptation to grandstand and merely-signal; it's harder to point to good consensus models of what 'successful normative reasoning' looks like (unlike 'successful descriptive reasoning'); etc.
Some scholarly fields are very healthy (e.g., physics). Some are fairly unhealthy (e.g., evolutionary psychology, sad to say). Some are outright crazy (e.g., philosophy of religion).
How good or bad is bioethics? How rigorous and truth-tracking is it? How much social benefit or harm does it cause?
Looking at lots of random examples is an under-used tool for making progress on this kind of question. It's fast, it avoids the perils of cherry-picking, and it doesn't require you to trust someone else's high-level summary of the field.
I picked the two highest-impact-factor "medical ethics" journals that have the word "bioethics" in the title: The American Journal of Bioethics and Bioethics. Together, these two journals release about 500 reports, book reviews, etc. per year.
I then picked a random article from 2014 through 2020 from each journal, plus extra random articles from the more cited journal (The American Journal of Bioethics): five from 2016, 2018, and 2020, and two from 2017 and 2019.
For each article, I quoted the abstract (if there is one), the first two paragraphs, and the final paragraph. These are provided below, sorted by year.
Obviously this breadth-first approach won't provide a full sense of the quality of argumentation in these papers; but it will hopefully provide a picture of what kinds of views tend to get argued for in the field, what those arguments tend to look like, what tends to get taken for granted, what tends to get ignored, and so on.
I expect more accurate conclusions and faster consensus-building about bioethics if conversation is grounded in a common pool of examples (which can then be drilled down on to spot-check a particular paper's arguments, etc.).
Added: aphyer summarized the articles in the comment section; I've put aphyer's summaries in an editable Google Doc to make it easier to improve on the summaries (and to encourage article-by-article critiques, in the comments below or in the Doc).
2014
1. Against Fetishism About Egalitarianism and in Defense of Cautious Moral Bioenhancement
Ingmar Persson and Julian Savulescu. The American Journal of Bioethics 14(4). Open Peer Commentaries.
2. Why Publishing Pseudonymously Can Protect Academic Freedom
Francesca Minerva. Bioethics 28(4). Symposium: 'Anonymised Publishing in Bioethics'.
2015
3. A Philosophical Misunderstanding at the Basis of Opposition to Nudging
Shlomo Cohen. The American Journal of Bioethics 15(10). Open Peer Commentaries.
4. Why not Commercial Assistance for Suicide? On the Question of Argumentative Coherence of Endorsing Assisted Suicide
Roland Kripke. Bioethics 29(7). Article.
2016
5. One Exemption Too Many: The Case for Mandated CCHD Screening
John D. Lantos, Julie Caciki, and Jeremy R. Garrett. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(1). Guest Editorial.
6. The Curious Case of the De-ICD: Negotiating the Dynamics of Autonomy and Paternalism in Complex Clinical Relationships
Daryl Pullman and Kathleen Hodgkinson. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(8). Article.
7. A Pilot Evaluation of Portfolios for Quality Attestation of Clinical Ethics Consultants
Joseph J. Fins, et al. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(3). Target Article.
8. Research Moratoria and Off-Label Use of Ketamine
Andrea Segal and Dominic Sisti. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(4). Open Peer Commentaries.
9. Good Ethics Begin With Good Facts
Birgitta Sujdak Mackiewicz. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(7). Case Commentaries.
10. The Ethics of Organ Donor Registration Policies: Nudges and Respect for Autonomy
Douglas MacKay and Alexandra Robinson. The American Journal of Bioethics 16(11). Target Article.
11. A Trust‐Based Pact in Research Biobanks. From Theory to Practice
Virginia Sanchini, et al. Bioethics 30(4). Original Article.
2017
12. Responsible Translation of Psychiatric Genetics and Other Neuroscience Developments: In Need of Empirical Bioethics Research
Gabriel Lázaro-Muñoz. The American Journal of Bioethics 17(4). Open Peer Commentaries.
13. Interconnectedness and Interdependence: Challenges for Public Health Ethics
Jonathan Beever and Nicolae Morar. The American Journal of Bioethics 17(9). Open Peer Commentaries.
14. Expanded Access for Nusinersen in Patients With Spinal Muscular Atropy: Negotiating Limited Data, Limited Alternative Treatments, and Limited Hospital Resources
Benjamin S. Wilfond, Christian Morales, and Holly A. Taylor. The American Journal of Bioethics 17(10). Case Report.
15. The Consequences of Vagueness in Consent to Organ Donation
David M. Shaw. Bioethics 31(6). Original Article.
2018
16. A Model for Communication About Longshot Treatments in the Context of Early Access to Unapproved, Investigational Drugs
Eline M. Bunnik and Nikkie Aarts. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(1). Open Peer Commentaries
17. Enhance Diversity Among Researchers to Promote Participant Trust in Precision Medicine Research
Demetrio Sierra-Mercado and Gabriel Lázaro-Muñoz. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(4). Open Peer Commentaries.
18. Miracles, Scarce Resources, and Fairness
Steve Clarke. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(5). Open Peer Commentaries.
19. Conscience as a Civil and Criminal Defense
Nadia N. Sawicki. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(7). Open Peer Commentaries.
20. The “Reasonable Subject Standard” as an Alternative to the “Best Interest Standard”
Joseph Millum. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(8). Open Peer Commentaries.
21. Keep It Simple
John J. Paris and Brian M. Cummings. The American Journal of Bioethics 18(8). Open Peer Commentary.
22. Not a matter of parental choice but of social justice obligation: Children are owed measles vaccination
Johan C. Bester. Bioethics 32(9). Original Article.
2019
23. Rational Freedom and Six Mistakes of a Bioconservative
Julian Savulescu. The American Journal of Bioethics 19(7). Editorials.
24. The Exploitation of Professional “Guinea Pigs” in the Gig Economy: The Difficult Road From Consent to Justice
Roberto Abadie. The American Journal of Bioethics 19(9). Open Peer Commentaries.
25. Caring for Dying Children
Edwin N. Forman and Rosalind Ekman Ladd. The American Journal of Bioethics 19(12). Open Peer Commentaries.
26. Research versus practice: The dilemmas of research ethics in the era of learning health‐care systems
Jan Piasecki and Vilius Dranseika. Bioethics 33(5). Original Article.
2020
27. “Unusual Care”: Groupthink and Willful Blindness in the SUPPORT Study
George J. Annas and Catherine L. Annas. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(1). Open Peer Commentaries.
28. From Solo Decision Maker to Multi-Stakeholder Process: A Defense and Recommendations
David Ozar, et al. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(2). Open Peer Commentaries.
29. The Healthcare Ethics Consultant-Certified Program: Fair, Feasible, and Defensible, But Neither Definitive Nor Finished
Armand H. Matheny Antommaria, et al. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(3). Guest Editorials.
30. A Call for Diversity and Inclusivity in the HEC-C Program
Julie Aultman and Cynthia Pathmathasan. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(3). Open Peer Commentaries.
31. To Be Coherently Beneficient, Be Communitarian
Charles Foster. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(3). Open Peer Commentaries.
32. The Case Against Solicitation of Consent for Apnea Testing
Dhristie Bhagat and Ariane Lewis. The American Journal of Bioethics 20(6). Open Peer Commentaries
33. THE TRUSTED DOCTOR: MEDICAL ETHICS AND PROFESSIONALISM
Philip Charles Hébert. Bioethics 34(9). Book Review.