this concern sounds like someone walking down a straight road and then closing their eyes cause they know where they want to go anyway
This doesn't sound like a good analogy at all. A better analogy might be a stylized subway map compared to a geographically accurate one. Sometimes removing detail can make it easier to process.
I agree your example is a better analogy. What I was trying to point to was something else: how the decision to remove detail from a navigational map feels to me experientially. It feels like a form of voluntary blindness to me.
In the case of the subway map, I’d probably also find a more accurate and faithful map easier to parse than the fully abstracted ones, cause I seem to have a high preference for visual details.
I do not use satellite view either, but my reason is mostly to do with the higher data usage (I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan). Even still, I don't think that there are many advantages to the satellite view especially considering the fact that roads can be obscured, and you still see the shapes of houses, traffic lights, and stop signs on Google Maps even without satellite view. Perhaps I am biased because I grew up in a place where there are trees everywhere, but it doesn't seem very useful to me.
My decision to avoid satellite view is a relic from a time of conserving data (and even then it might have been a case of using salt to accelerate cooking time). I wonder if there's a risk of using it in places where cellular data is spotty, though. I'd imagine that using satellite view would reduce the efficiency in which the application saves local map information that might be important if I make a wrong turn where there's no data available.
When driving a car, I navigate using Satellite View!
It took me a moment to realise you were talking about Google Maps on a phone. Best of luck trying that in my part of the world. Default view, Satellite view, without a phone signal you don’t have either, and I usually don’t in the countryside..
Cause wow what is everyone even doing?!
You know how you sometimes hear about people seeing colors when they hear words, or how they memorize thousands of phone numbers on sight, or that some navigate intricate mind palaces full of detailed sensory information?
Ever wonder if you are secretly one of those people that have some highly unusual inner experience that no one else has?
Well. I’ve found mine, guys.
When driving a car, I navigate using Satellite View!
So fucking wild, right?
I’ve polled over 30 people about this now, and I’ve found 3 people that do the same. One is my brother.
Now the part that absolutely blows my fucking mind - with all due respect, speaking as the comparative alien here - but … whyyyyyy?
Satellite view has more information. Some of that information can ever be useful. When I’m navigating, I can see I need to take the third left and I can recognize the third left coming up cause it’s near that one tree down the road. Trees, bridges, parking lots, high risers, lawns, farmland … they all have shapes on the map that I can use to recognize more quickly where I am, where I’m going, and it looks prettier too!
So I asked people why they use Map view (ha, >90% chance this is the part that feels self-evident to you. Ahum. I, however, am mind-blown, thank you very much!). I’ve heard two main responses.
The first is that Map view is the default and it hadn’t occurred to them to change it. Google Earth was released in 2001. I’m not sure when Satellite view released, but it’s been at least a decade if not two. I’m rather fascinated how Realizing An Action Is Possible works in the brain. Sometimes there is a weird smell coming from the fridge, and it takes me something like 1-3 days to realize that I can take physical actions to remedy this. I’ve always found that rather bizarre. How come us humans can know a thing is possible, and sometimes even notice we would like to resolve the issue, but then not realize we can move our bodies to make this happen?
The second reason is that Satellite view makes it harder for many people to get the information they want. The majority of the people who have tried it or use it actively in some niche cases, tend to report it’s harder to notice where streets are, and what they are named cause there is so much else going on on the screen.
I find this flabbergasting.
To me, this concern sounds like someone walking down a straight road and then closing their eyes cause they know where they want to go anyway. Or if you had the ability to turn off color vision, do you imagine you’d do it outside of, say, meals and traffic navigation?
But then I realized I do actually habitually put on sound blocking headphones when working. I’m making myself effectively deaf. The car noises and the wind, and the occasional voices around me are distracting and not relevant to my work. Visually I don’t experience anything like this, but I wonder if you made some measure of “preferred sensory load per sense” if you’d end up with a normal distribution where I’m dangling on the low end of auditory sensory load preference and I shot out the top of the distribution for visual sensory load preference[1].
My point being … minds can be surprisingly different and qualia can vary wildly in ways you can’t predict, and then when you want to build a bridge back to empathizing with other people’s experiences, then you have to go and find analogous experiences in yourself or you are just left going “?!” about what the hell it’s like to be that other person.
So I’m wondering how we can notice where our qualia diverge from each other. I’m 38 before anyone commented on me using Satellite view for navigation. Similarly it took ages for aphantasiacs to be “noticed”. And in the same vein, I suspect some people don’t experience “consciousness” in the way most of the rest of us do but they are tremendously hard to notice!
I’d be excited for something like a grand survey of qualia to exist, including all the presumably >100 synethesias that are out there. Or maybe there is some other tool that can be constructed that probes for unique qualia more effectively. The data collection on this would not just let participants notice if they are unique outliers on some experience, but would also allow us to identify clusters of common experiences and possibly relate them to demographics or life outcomes.
I’d be so surprised if we didn’t discover some interesting patterns. Wouldn’t you? :D
2 minutes on scholar google and perplexity make it immediately evident that these are actual research areas with actual insights and actual information. I’m not reporting on that cause I’m mostly preoccupied at the moment with the shininess of “oh man, how do minds differ?!”