I'm not sure why this is true - isnt "relevance" here a causal term and ai have us beaten in narrow domain - namely chess and others - why cant frontier labs optimize this domain as welll?
Even in a comparatively open domain, they dont need to have a closed form solution for "humor" - they just somewhat needs to beats human baseline domain shift, no? and i doubt this is not possible if they were to record thousands of organic conversations everyday plus web crawling?
I agree that AIs will eventually overcome this weakness. Quoting my post:
Anyway, to be clear, AIs are already improving at relevance realization (did you know Gemini 4 Argon is actually kind of funny?), so this isn't going to be a permanent Human advantage.
I think relevance realization is harder to train than ex. math/programming. I hesitate to guess why, but possibly just a matter of the best reward signal being human feedback, and RLVR dragging AIs away from that, hence models like Opus 5.
How similar is it to the AIs being disproportionately weak at conceptual tasks? I created a wikitag with that name in order to categorise the posts with similar ideas, like Introducing the Conceptual Reasoning Index or [Diagram] Early handoff? Improve conceptual reasoning
Edited to add: I have a drafted writeup on conceptual reasoning abilities, but I am not aware of many relevant benchmarks. There also is Nesov's claim that common sense (similar to conceptual reasoning?) scales with model size as well as the threat of conceptual reasoning undermining AI control evals by vice of improving along with dangerous capabilities...
Related, but distinct. I would say relevance realization is more a matter of choosing the right frame in which to reason, whether conceptually or not. Arguably that choice is a form of conceptual reasoning, but I think the distinction is meaningful in practice. AIs are better at conceptual reasoning than at explaining concepts or at identifying key concepts when trying to explain a complex topic. I think it's fair to say the recent batch of math papers from OpenAI demonstrates this, but also for example AIs are better at architecting complex software than one-shot explaining it. (usually you have to ask a bunch of followup questions, aka, point to the relevant parts)
I think the more closely related idea is the frame problem, esp. Dennett's version, where an AI fails to consider "obvious" consequences of its actions even though it was capable of understanding them if told explicitly to do so. Relevance realization is the ability one uses to solve the frame problem.
Re: common sense/conceptual reasoning scaling with model size, I agree this seems to happen at least somewhat. Just as a quick test, on Low reasoning, Haiku 5.5 and Sonnet 5.5 still fail the classic "should i drive or walk to the car wash? it's only 100m away" test by telling you to walk, while Opus 5.5 tells you to drive. I think in that test "common sense" is pretty close to "relevance realization", but not in ex. the "figure out general relativity" case. So, some overlap, but distinct.
It's weird that AI agents are still so poor at communicating complex information to humans; that their mathematical proofs are correct yet gobbledygook, that their software dashboards overwhelm with irrelevant true information, and that their writing buries the lede. Somehow, there's still alpha in the right prompts, the right context, and, ultimately, in a human pointing the way.
What's the missing skill? I'd like to offer a cognitive science term, "relevance realization"[1] as fitting the bill. It means, roughly: "the ability to identify the information most useful for improving your understanding of the world"[2]. AIs tend to be poor at this, particularly when communicating with humans. AIs' propensity to apply more dakka isn't enough; the possibility space of the world is so vast that even millions of tokens of brilliant polymath reasoning can't narrow it alone.
In contrast, Humans are still comparatively good at locating useful hypotheses by aggressively cutting down the possibility space on priors. We have a well-developed sense for what's relevant, especially what's most relevant for other Humans like ourselves. Great skill in this area lets an Einstein hunt down a theory like General Relativity, but even humble talent can better identify how to break down a mathematical insight or present data in a way that changes worldviews.
What does this mean? Well, centaur Human-AI collaboration is most efficient when each side maximizes their comparative advantage. So in this context, that means using your own sense of what's relevant and then directing AI's enormous knowledge, relentless drive, and excellent software skills at it.
How do we increase our comparative advantage? By learning more about our world's possibility space. The best example in my mind is SMBC's Zach Weinersmith, the webcomic cartoonist. Humor is a well-known weakness of AIs, and a certain kind of cognitive feat. How does he manage to make daily comics for 24 years that remain funny, aka, remain relevant and insightful? Well, Weinersmith says:
Good advice![3]
Anyway, to be clear, AIs are already improving at relevance realization (did you know Gemini 4 Argon is actually kind of funny?[4]), so this isn't going to be a permanent Human advantage. Even if it somehow turns out that LLM neural nets are particularly bad at relevance realization, future architectures need not be.
But if you care about doing relevant work in the next few years[5] before ASI, then "relevance realization" may be a useful skill to cultivate.
Paywall-free version here. FYI this is also a "woo-ish" term by connotations; the professor behind it, John Vervaeke, is pretty into Buddhism and the "crisis of meaning in Western society". I'm rationalist, not rationalist-adjacent myself, but "relevance realization" is such an evocative term that I want to steal it anyway.
Or we might say, "for improving your map of the territory". Or more formally, we might define "relevance realization" as skill in picking out, across all possible Bayesian hypotheses and observations, the highest-value possible evidence, that which you expect would update your beliefs the most. That's famously uncomputable, so it's a matter of having strong heuristics.
cf. EA's Important/Tractable/Neglected framework.
Hit me with a gutbuster the other day about how the author of a document "missed their calling writing Five-Year Plans" for the CCP. Sorry, you had to be there.
hopefully "years"…