Talking with a friend recently on this, and we started to get to this topic: Zooming out and viewing existence from nature/all creature point of view - why must human/humanity live/continue forever? We admit we are self-preservation focused, and the answer to this question eventually probably does not change much...
Thanks for sharing this paper; this also reminded me of a paper, A Pretrainer’s Guide to Training Data: Measuring the Effects of Data Age, Domain Coverage, Quality, & Toxicity (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.13169), and their section on toxicity filtering (threshold, classifier vs generation trade-off)
I was just reminded of a story I saw online that is related to this and wanted to share since it was positive and reflective. The story OP shared an experience when walking behind a family; they encountered a homeless and the father turned to the kid and started with something like “study well and after you grow up…”; the OP thought maybe the father wanted to say “don’t end up like the homeless” which is what the poster’s father used to say to them. Instead the father said “help these people to be in better situations”. And the OP found it beautiful and I found it beautiful too. It seems the two fathers both “understood” the pain of being a homeless, but had different understanding on the “how”, and decided to act differently based on that understanding.
Do agree not to just focus on LLM (LLM base or agents), but also other architectures.
I would agree the mindset of “I can fix things if I were you” could prevent “empathy”. (I was also reading other comments mentioning this is not true empathy but simulation and I found it insightful too.) The key problem is if you would be able to tell if this is something they are able to fix, and what part of this is attributable to what they can do, and what part is attributable to lack of privilege. For example, a blind person cannot really type easily without special equipment. They or their family may not have the money to buy that special equipment. The parents were not able to get a college degree without some form of generational wealth. The same is true for intelligence level. (For example.)
Even growth mindset, is something that is developed through our education, environment growing up, experience, or even something like visa status. This is probably where empathy starts to develop further.
Would recommend checking out the link I posted from the EA forum to see why AI X risk may not get to some population and they die before then; and the proposal I have to work on both precisely avoids caring only for subsets
It would make sense in capability cases. But unfortunately, in a lot of live saving cases, all are important (this gets a bit more into other things so let me focus on only the following two points for now). 1. Many causes are not actually comparable in general cause prioritization context (one of which is people may inherent personal biases based their experience and worlds, second is it is hard to value 10 kids’ lives in US vs 10 kids’ lives in Canada, for example), and 2. Time is critical when thinking of lives. You can think of this as emergency rooms.
The link above illustrates an example of when time is important.
Saw a post about "left leaning/liberal" rationalist discord channel earlier this month, but the discord channel invitation link got expired when I tried today, and I could not find the original post anymore. Could anyone in that group post the invitation link again if possible? Much appreciated. (Apologize in advance if this is something that is not allowed.)
Oxford languages (or really just after googling) says "rational" is "based on or in accordance with reason or logic."
I think there are a lot of other types of definitions (I think lesswrong mentioned it is related to the process of finding truth). For me, first of all it is useful to break this down into two parts: 1) observation and information analysis, and 2) decision making.
For 1): Truth, but also particularly causality finding. (Very close to the first one you bolded, and I somehow feel many other ones are just derived from this one. I added causality because many true observations are not really causality).
For 2): My controversial opinion is everyone are... (read more)
Talking with a friend recently on this, and we started to get to this topic:
Zooming out and viewing existence from nature/all creature point of view - why must human/humanity live/continue forever?
We admit we are self-preservation focused, and the answer to this question eventually probably does not change much on what we do. Maybe just some more attention to suffering risks rather than death.
I wonder what people's thoughts are on this, as I was a bit caught off guard for this question.
(I also encourage professional conversations that are focused on the topic/question itself.)
A recent thought on AI racing - it may not lead to more intelligent models necessarily especially at a time when low hanging fruits are taken and now more advanced breakthroughs need to come from longer term exploration and research. But this also does not necessarily mean that AI racing (particularly on LLMs in this context, but I think generally too) is not something to be worried about. It may waste a lot of compute/resources to achieve only marginally better models. Additionally the worst side effect of AI racing to me is the potential negligence on safety mitigations, and lack of safety focused mindset/culture.
When thinking about deontology and consequentialism in application, it is useful to me to rate morality of actions based on intention, execution, and outcome. (Some cells are "na" as they are not really logical in real world scenarios.)
In reality, to me, it seems executed "some" intention matters (though I am not sure how much) the most when doing something bad, and executed to the best ability matters the most when doing something good.
It also seems useful to me, when we try to learn about applications of philosophy from law. (I am not an expert though in neither philosophy nor law, so these may contain errors.)
| Intention to kill the person | Executed "some" intention | Killed the |
Equity vs equality considerations (https://belonging.berkeley.edu/equity-vs-equality-whats-difference):
(This should have been attached/replied to my first quick take, as opposed to a separate quick take.)
From someone's DM to me:
"Regarding war, rape, and murder, it's one thing to make them taboo, view them with disgust, and make them illegal. It's another thing to want to see them disappear from the world entirely. They are side effects of human capacities that in other contexts we cherish, like the willingness to follow powerful leaders, to make sacrifices, to protect ourselves by fighting and punishing enemies who threaten or abuse us, and the ability to feel erotic excitement. This is why they keep happening."
I am seeing - "side effects", "rape -> erotic excitement" -... (read more)
If you look into a bit more history on social justice/equality problems, you would see we have actually made many many progress (https://gcdd.org/images/Reports/us-social-movements-web-timeline.pdf), but not enough as the bar was so low. These also have made changes in our law. Before 1879, women cannot be lawyers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women_lawyers_in_the_United_States). On war, I don't have too much knowledge myself, so I will refrain from commenting for now. It is also my belief that we should not stop at attempt, but attempt is the first step (necessary but not sufficient), and they have pushed to real changes as history shown, but it will have to take piles of piles of work, before a significant change. Just... (read more)
I saw someone wrote somewhere: will try their best in their life to address X risks to make sure future humans/generations will see this beautiful world. I respect that. However, many recent news and events make me also think about the current humans/people right now. Who are seeing this beautiful world right now? Whose beautiful world this is?
The people in war didn't see it. It is not their beautiful world. The female doctor who got brutally gang raped while on duty didn't see it. It is not their beautiful world. Are there also enough efforts to help these people, to see a beautiful and fair world? Is this really a beautiful world? Does this beautiful world belong to everyone?
Curious - what made you think this is new to Code World Model comparing to other Meta releases?