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this is near free money

That's a 12.5% return on 9 months. That's pretty good but calling this "near free money" when you have to put up 25k to get it...

The payback might be lower if I put this on the stock market but if I'm wrong there, there's 99% chance that's only on when the lowest point was or how fast it will recover. I have to wait a bit longer to get 3k out of it but I still own something. Here, you lose, you lose everything.

Still, congrats on putting your money where your mouth is, I'd be curious to see if someone takes you up on it and how you op... (read more)

2Remmelt
Thanks, I hadn't seen that graph yet! I had only searched Manifold. The odds of 1:7 imply a 12.5% chance of a crash. That's far outside of the consensus on that graph. Though I also notice that their criteria for a "bust or winter" are much stricter than where I'd set the threshold for a crash. That makes me wonder whether I should have selected a lower odd ratio (for a higher return on the upside). Regardless, this month I'm prepared to take this bet.   Fair enough – you'd have to set aside this amount in your savings. You could still earn some interest from the bank, but that's not much.

I was very disappointed with perplexity DR, it has the same name but it's definitely not the same product as OAI's DR. 

Interesting, made me think about Pantone Color of the Year.

if a place says it's "scent-free"

I never heard of that, do you have examples?

I usually do 3 sprays but not directly on me, I go through the "cloud" of perfume. Should I go down to 2?

I never heard of that, do you have examples?

My local gym has posted rules which include an explicit ban on perfume. (They don't use the exact term 'scent-free' but I assume it is an example of what OP means.)

Not that they enforce it, or even could enforce it; but I am reminded that rule exists every so often a woman (and it's always a woman) walks past me when I'm there at night, and I am suddenly hit by the smell (especially as I don't think of myself as being particularly perceptive nose-wise and I don't usually notice how people smell), and I wonder ... (read more)

3Gordon Seidoh Worley
My understanding is that that cloud method wastes perfume because less of it actually gets on you. Better to spray directly on the skin, usually either on the chest or on the back of the neck. If you want some on your hands, rub the back of your hands on the sprayed area immediately after spraying. 3 sprays with the cloud method is probably fine.

Metaculus has a lot of those forecasts, for instance in those groups: 

To add to this, I'm a forecaster on metaculus and I can now do dozens if not hundred of poisson/monte carlo/ets simulations every hour when before I often needed the hour to do two or three because I had to do small tweaks that took me quite some time before and that I now delegate to AI. I learned python a year ago but clearly I'm a newbie, it has changed my capabilities significantly.

I did not see it in your post but there is a relevant question on Metaculus : https://www.metaculus.com/questions/20541/ai-resolving-questions-on-metaculus/%7D/ 

I'm at 66% for 2030, 96% for 2040

2ozziegooen
That's highly relevant, thanks! 

To avoid shorts/reels etc I use ScreenZen. I'm allowed to use all of YouTube and Instagram with no issues except for the short videos where I receive a special message that I can bypass but then my 100 days streak would be broken so... Yes I used my achievements addiction to force myself out of Reels/shorts.

Depending on how far gone you are it may not be enough but I found that this was great because it gave more control, for instance you can simply delete all shorts from the youtube interface iirc. 

To add to the other answers, outside of the induced consequences post-singularity, what happens pre-singularity still matters if the singularity does not happen extremely soon.

  1. we don't know when (or IF!) the singularity will happen
  2. does nothing matter until then? What if the singularity happens in a century? Should you abandon all your beliefs because one day when you'll be (likely) dead, people will have solved all problems?

I thought you said he was very close to the maximum he could do? English is a second language so maybe I misunderstood something. Also, only my first paragraph is really related to the quote, the rest is more of a free flow of what I think

2mikbp
Oh, it is probably my mistake XD I'm also not native. I meant increase, not that it is the maximum it could be, sorry.

while, at the same time, the reach of his actions and opinions have also maximized

I disagree. Companies will become complacent and stagnant very fast if leadership is not going hard against it. I'm not sure I'd like to work for him but my impression is that he really pushes his teams to go for more faster and results have shown up. I'm not sure "dumb"(at first look) ideas like Mechazilla would exist without him being willing to try cool things.

I'm on the fence for X, there have been good changes and the site feels a bit less like an echo chamber but there ... (read more)

1mikbp
Hi, thanks. I don't see how what you say contradicts that the reach of his actions and opinions have increased. Did you maybe quote the wrong sentence?

I am far from being a model user as I am not a very organized person but having everything in the same place has allowed me to actually find things much more easily because the search is quite good. Not perfect but much better than what Google offers in Docs or Keep for instance. The app itself is very versatile but there are many plugins that will allow you to tailor your experience in the exact way you need it.

I try to update or create a new note as soon as possible because I forget pretty fast. I have a few notes made exactly for the purpose of storing ... (read more)

2CstineSublime
Thank you for the detailed response, to be honest hearing the experience of a disorganized non-model user seems much more valuable than someone who uses it perfectly, like how you don't find yourself using tags. 

I use Obsidian. It's a note taking/note making software using almost only Markdown syntax. It is very malleable to your use but mostly relies on a linking system that kinda makes it a wiki for your knowledge.

1CstineSublime
I'm not familiar with that app, but could you go into more detail about how you use it with regards to storing and capturing ideas? Like do you instantly, say when on the bus, or at the dinner table note down an idea? How much detail do you put in? How does it integrate with your to-do list or calendar or whatever productivity system, formal or informal you have? An idea may not necessarily represent a commitment just yet, so how do you use this app to revisit ideas? How often do you revisit them? Do you organize or store your "ideas" notes differently to other notes?
3Seth Herd
I second Obsidian. It's free, lightning fast, local (you own you data so can't be held hostage to a subscription fee) and the Markdown format is simple and common enough that there will always be some way to use the system you've set up. There are more in depth theories about how to actually organize your notes, but obsidian can do it in a variety of ways, almost however you want.

The title of your post has lived rent-free in my head for three years but I think that's when I discovered Metaculus so thank you I guess.

Love the drawings! I feel like more drawings would make this community easier to understand to outsiders.

I'm guilty of n°3 when people defend some hype products while saying untrue things about how they are better than the competition. Obvious example about Apple's products "doing something no other phone does" when the functionality in question was introduced 7 years ago on Android. Not exactly the same since they do not frame it as preference but try to rationalize it but I'll remember this next time to be nicer.

4DaystarEld
Ah, yeah I definitely struggle a bit sometimes with people who make objective-assertion-type-statements when promoting or defending things they enjoy. I also gain quite a lot of enjoyment from looking at various kinds of media with a critical eye; I just do my best to keep that criticism in contexts where the listener or reader wants to share it :)

I remember reading about SAD treatment by lumens in Inadequate Equilibria, though I did not finish the book.

Thanks for making this clearer, I had misunderstood this indeed. I'm still very much not a fan of the idea of "switching votes", but I guess that's not much different from some alliances and other shenanigans that happen during elections.

I'm not american so I have no skin in the game.

Isn't one of the democrat's main arguments that Trump is a danger to democracy and won't respect basic duties ? Supporting cheating seems a bit hypocritical.

Edit : This is not actually cheating, I had misunderstood it. Still, not much of a fan of such ideas.

-11TheCookieLab

With metaculus I do write my confidence in pretty much every forecast that I make. It has made this better. But even then, when coming back to long term forecasts, I sometimes find myself stunned by my specific %, likely forgetting some of the informations that brought me to that forecast in the first place.

I could not read everything yet, sorry for that but I wanted to contribute on one of your points. I'm not certain AI will be bad for languages, it could resurrect some of them easily if they have been recorded in some way and could help people maintain their skills in less used languages. It could teach people those languages.

2harfe
That point is basically already in the post:

I'm not convinced Trump will succeed and I'm worried by what he would be ok with to reach peace but it is true that he made happen things that seemed unlikely (no war, leaving Afghanistan, korea meeting), nevermind if this meant negotiating with terrible people.

So if you don't care about Ukraine and want the war to stop, I'm also under the impression that Trump is your best shot.

I was scared that by clicking on the red button I was going to launch nukes... so I did not hit it. Now I know that next year I will click.

Well, maybe.

2Huera
Were it not for the big red button™ , I probably would've opted in before reading what this year's Petrov Day was about (I didn't take part, since that would risk too much precious karma). I wonder whether it would be more fitting to make the opt-in option look maximally scary or nonthreatening.

Edit : I should have read more carefully.

6Zach Stein-Perlman
Benchmark scores are here.

We have this forecast on Metaculus that is exactly about such an AI, it would be interesting to try to resolve it : https://www.metaculus.com/questions/7024/ai-to-beat-humans-on-metaculus/

I was quite pessimistic (for humans) so this would confirm it but I'll wait a bit for more infos and tests before thinking it's over.

3jasoncrawford
I appreciate that! Would like to get back to them at some point…

Sure, if you want to go hands free or mobile you might talk to your phone or computer, but typing is just better than speaking, and a mouse is more precise than a gesture, and AI won’t change that.

This is true for people here but I'm not sure it's necessarily true for the world at large considering the average typing speed. Most people would find it much easier to speak to their computer than type to it. (and they would be able to exchange much faster)

Thanks for the detailed and clear answer! I mostly agree with you.

Each regulation has a cost.  Of course privacy and sensitive data protection is a nice to have, but is it worth the marginal cost it imposes?  Or another way to see it:  When you have a large number of costly regulations, you raise the cost to the point that the EU tech industry underperforms:

There is a clear difference in mindset like you said. Europe is less inclined towards entrepreneurship and more towards a powerful state that regulates the economy. I won't lie, I am ofte... (read more)

GDPR is clearly not perfect but this incessant bashing is tiring. Not everything has to be about being more productive. Privacy and sensitive data protection matters. I find it kind of sad to have to say those things when it's been a year of constant warnings about the future dangers of AIs.

It's easier to not care about it when half the companies leeching data are US based but from what I read about the TikTok ban, as soon as it's not an american company, then it's a big problem. The EU cannot rely on the US (and US companies) to care about them or be very reliable (and have proven that time and time again).

1[anonymous]
Each regulation has a cost.  Of course privacy and sensitive data protection is a nice to have, but is it worth the marginal cost it imposes?  Or another way to see it:  When you have a large number of costly regulations, you raise the cost to the point that the EU tech industry underperforms: https://www.forbes.com/sites/markminevich/2021/12/03/can-europe-dominate-in-innovation-despite-us-big-tech-lead/ Ideal : Do Everything The Proper Way. Practical: have a "regulatory budget", where you impose a limited amount of regulations that offer the most benefit without making the industry uncompetitive relative to international competition.  (or give up on the industry, for example solar, batteries, EV manufacturing, consumer goods seem to be all China now) USA Way: in practice the USA Federal government is slow to impose regulations due to centuries old accidents of history* and the way wealth corporate lobbyists are able to strongly influence the government.  There is also a broader cultural ethos of entrepreneurship and free markets. For example, at the Federal level : cigarettes are still legal to sell, fossil fuels still have no carbon taxes imposed.   These are among the lowest hanging fruits possible, the evidence is beyond any reasonable argument, and yet no action has been taken, likely due to the lobbying by the wealthy companies who stand to lose. This happens to also impose a "regulatory budget" and it happens to allow the USA tech industry to be dominant.   At least, that's what I think in that I don't think anyone is a 'live player'*, none of these governments are trying to maximize any sort of utility function, they just each grind slowly forward to different sets of tradeoffs and are influenced by history. *3 branches of government, where each has a veto on the others, and there are 1990s laws that happen to give tech companies wide latitude to do whatever they want.  Most of the last 20 years, at the Federal level there has been deadlocks, where

I feel you, I'm a lawyer in France in civil law and people will deform so many things that you will learn about so late in the process that it gets very difficult (if possible at all) to backtrack.

I'm coming very late to this but it is also possible that the people forecasting on each of the questions are noticeably different and they have different ideas about AI. Maybe some just don't know about the other questions. It won't explain everything but it could be a factor.

Also, it is difficult to keep all your forecasts up to date. You can forget.

I feel like theses posts get less likes than before (and I often forget to like them) but they really are great to keep up with what's happening. Thanks for doing it!

Thanks for sharing this view.

I can relate to you on some aspects. I am not feeling depressed at all but I'm a bit scared that I was born too early to really benefit from AGI. 

This perspective ignores future generations, which is admittedly a weakness. However, prioritizing future generations above oneself and one's loved ones is psychologically hard.

Do you have children? I don't but I am under the impression that people who do say that this changes a bit once you have children. (because of soon to be born grandchildren I guess?)

1[deactivated]
Nope, I don't have kids. That might change how I feel about things, by a lot.  Anyway, when I said "future generations", I wasn't thinking of kids, grandkids, or great-grandkids, but generations far, far into the future, which would — in an optimistic scenario — comprise 99.9%+ of the total population of humans (or transhumans or post-humans) over time.  I wonder how much the typical person or the typical LessWrong enjoyer would viscerally, limbically care about, say, A) all the people alive today and born within the next 1,000 years vs. B) everyone born (or created) in 3024 A.D. onward. 

95% was most likely an overexaggeration but that was to underline the main idea that overall if all of your recipes need several ingredients that will be used in none of the other recipes, it's much harder to make a restaurant work.

When dining in, I suppose yes, because we wouldn't think of the other dishes as Italian then - I don't make an 'Italian steak' it's just a steak, etc. 

Indeed, I may be biased but many "italian things" do feel like normal things were "italian" has been added to it because they have a great cooking culture. Especially among the appetizers, where the spanish do the same, incorporating every small dish under the tapas umbrella

I live in the south so I won't be able to but my main advices would be to avoid eating near touristic places where very average stuff will be sold at a premium (Eiffel Tower, arc de triomphe for instance) and to go for places that look nice but not too fancy, especially if you want something closer to a "comfort food" feeling. Fancy places can have extremely good food but like Zvi said it, the ambiance can be mediocre and/or impersonal. Maybe ask parisians about the places where they would bring their friends for a good dinner? (and that you would like to try french specialties in some of them :) )

Exactly, the quality rules in the EU sometimes feel too strict but a few weeks in the US and I saw the difference. The compounding effect of food on your health is huge.

Salads and pasta salads on the "healthy" side. There are a lot of vegetables in the burgers, almost no option with only meat in it.

But it's not so much that than the differences in portion sizes and calories. There are legal limits to added sugar, salt or fat and to how much calories you can put in a meal. It's way lower than what you can find in the US.

Unlimited sodas are forbidden in France(Europe maybe ?) + they have way less sugar than in the US (+they are even cut a bit more in fast foods) There must be a few other stuff but out of my head they are the main ones.

Despite that we still have obesity (~23% which is kind of average today but still bad)

5Viliam
They are legal (but rare) in Slovakia. I think IKEA has them at the restaurants they have in their shops. I think this is more general than people realize. The food you buy under the same name and trademark in different countries is likely to be different, to comply with the local laws... or exploit their absence. (I tried to google a half-forgotten example, but it is completely buried under tons of PR articles about how Coca Cola deeply cares about the purity of water in their products in India.)

100%! I have seen abroad varieties of pastries that I have never seen in France (often weird ones) and I did not understand why but this actually makes it sense, if 50% of what you sell is "croissant with XYZ" it's an easier sell. Can't believe I did not get that before

But when you go to a chinese place that's what you expect right ? Overall, even italian food is not as restricted as my comment makes it look but when you go to an italian restaurant you expect pasta and pizza

Cuisines are not limited to what is sold abroad as X cuisine but it's easier to sell when customers can know pretty much what to expect. That's not doable with french food, which is what I was trying to say

Your argument is sound but I think it's actually because of its diversity in the base foods. Pasta and pizza is 95% of italian food, rice and noodles are the base of 80% of chinese/japanese/korean food, etc... In french cuisine, there is no base that is often used so you must have a lot of different ingredients. Not the best thing when you operate at "small scale" (when you're not very expensive or cheesecake factory)

I don't know if french restaurants are pretentious outside of france, but that looks more like a parisian problem than a french one.

4Zvi
I am confused to see multiple people make the '95% pasta/pizza' claim about Italian, Secondi is very much a thing, as are appetizers, even in NYC where pizza is everywhere I'd say maybe 65% when dining out. When dining in, I suppose yes, because we wouldn't think of the other dishes as Italian then - I don't make an 'Italian steak' it's just a steak, etc. 
4ShardPhoenix
On a recent trip to China I found the trend there - at least for fancy meals - is low carb, with few noodles and often no rice at all.
2Vanilla_cabs
That could also explain why French bakeries, with their staple and iconic baguette and croissant, seem to be faring better in my experience.

I was also surprised to see it so low.

French here.

Paris is an island in France, they are completely different from the rest of the country. We know it, they know it (and they want us to know it) and we don't like each others that much. Several of the experiences you talk about are typical parisian bullshit that would almost never happen elsewhere. About the "fancy" experience you describe, I'd say it's far from the majority and most restaurants would on the contrary be "à la bonne franquette" especially outside of Paris.

Really when you said this, I was thinking about 90% of my food experience ... (read more)

9jefftk
This varies enormously. In my circle cooking is very common (I grew up eating almost all home cooking and my wife did too (though this wasn't part of our selection criteria), we cook ~every night now, many of my kids friends families do too) but I also know a lot of households who don't cook at all.
2AnthonyC
It's not bad luck, this is fairly common. I've discussed it with a number of people from many places. My own take is that the disaster of the 1950s made home cooking terrible, and caused us to lose most of the cooking knowledge our grandparents and great-grandparents had. Recovering it means a new generations has to learn on their own as adults instead of learning from their parents growing up, so most people never do. I grew up in a family in the food industry in NY and always loved to cook, so I feel like an outsider looking at much of my own country's food culture.
1gh4n
I'm going to Paris soon. Are there any specific places/parts of Paris you recommend visiting?
1Robi Rahman
What does McDonald's sell in France?

As a lawyer, I think that would be less the case because our jargon does not reflect reality per se but the consequences of the actions we make and the constructs we created as a society. But maybe I actually fail to see my friends and I doing it because people I mostly see are working in law.

I regularly find myself in situations where I want to convince people that AI safety is important but I have very little time before they lose interest. If you had one minute to convince someone with no or almost no previous knowledge, how would you do it ? (I have considered printing eliezer's tweet about nuclear)

2evand
For an extremely brief summary of the problem, I like this from Zvi: https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/response-to-tyler-cowens-existential-risk-ai-and-the-inevitable-turn-in-human-history/

A survey was conducted in the summer of 2022 of approximately 4271 researchers who published at the conferences NeurIPS or ICML in 2021, and received 738 responses, some partial, for a 17% response rate. When asked about impact of high-level machine intelligence in the long run, 48% of respondents gave at least 10% chance of an extremely bad outcome (e.g. human extinction).

Thank you for this. I had seen a few things but I had missed a lot. I have been getting more concerned by the day since the beginning of the year...

Thank you, I will show this to a few people! (I'm at 12%...)

P.S: I liked the final statement around 100%

Complete agreement, I should have started way earlier to dress better (and I started 10 years ago at 19!). If you're French, bonnegueule.fr is how I learned to dress nicely. I'm sure there are good websites in every country.

I read somewhere about the higher risks related to cooling the power plant because of the increasing commonness of droughts. Not sure of the magnitude of the problem but considering the worsening climate for the next 30 years it does seem to be in good faith.

Update : I didn't completely get your (gwern) answer at first but after I read eliezer's post it made more sense, I think I was missing basic information about the topic to fully get it. Your explanation really added something to the original post since it was tailored to the subject I was wondering about.

Thanks!

Thanks for the answer and the link ! I'll go read group selection tomorrow.

1exmateriae
Update : I didn't completely get your (gwern) answer at first but after I read eliezer's post it made more sense, I think I was missing basic information about the topic to fully get it. Your explanation really added something to the original post since it was tailored to the subject I was wondering about. Thanks!
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