Integrity in AI Governance and Advocacy
habryka Ok, so we both had some feelings about the recent Conjecture post on "lots of people in AI Alignment are lying", and the associated marketing campaign and stuff. I would appreciate some context in which I can think through that, and also to share info we have in the space that might help us figure out what's going on. I expect this will pretty quickly cause us to end up on some broader questions about how to do advocacy, how much the current social network around AI Alignment should coordinate as a group, how to balance advocacy with research, etc. OliviaJ Feelings about Conjecture post: * Lots of good points about people not stating their full beliefs messing with the epistemic environment and making it costlier for others to be honest. * The lying and cowardice frames feel off to me. * I personally used to have a very similar rant to Conjecture. Since moving to DC, I'm more sympathetic to those working in with government. We could try to tease out why. * The post exemplifies a longterm gripe I have with Conjecture's approach to discourse & advocacy, which I've found pretty lacking in cooperativeness and openness (Note: I worked there for ~half a year.) Questions on my mind: * How open should people motivated by existential risk be? (My shoulder model of several people says "take a portfolio approach!" - OK, then what allocation?) * How advocacy-y should people be? I want researchers to not have to tweet their beliefs 24/7 so they can actually get work done * How do you think about this, Oli? How sympathetic to be about governance people being private about some motivations and affiliations habryka > I personally used to have a very similar rant to Conjecture. I'm now more sympathetic to governance people. We could try to tease out why. This direction seems most interesting to me! My current feelings in the space are that I am quite sympathetic to some comms-concerns that people in government have and quite unsympathetic to some othe
I agree with all of these (except never felt worried about being quoted by Conjecture)