RobinZ comments on Advancing Certainty - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobinZ 19 January 2010 12:11:42AM *  2 points [-]

You're right: recalculating...

Let E(A) be the expected value of the lottery that you should use in determining your actions. Let E(a) be the expected value you calculate. Let p be your confidence in your calculation (a probability in the Bayesian sense).

If we want to account for the possibility of calculating wrong, we are tempted to write something like

E(A) = p * E(a) + (1-p) * x

where x is what you would expect the lottery to be worth if your calculation was wrong.

The naive calculation - the one which says, "play the lottery" - takes x as equal to the jackpot. This is not justified. The correct value for x is closer to your reference-class prediction.

Setting x equal to "negative the cost of the ticket plus epsilon", then, it becomes abundantly clear that your ignorance does not make the lottery a good bet.

Edit: This also explains why you check your math before betting when it looks like a lottery is a good bet, which is nice.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 19 January 2010 03:04:42AM 2 points [-]

If we follow your suggestion and obtain E(A) < 0, then compute from that the probability of winning the lottery, we end up with P(will win lottery) < 1e-8. But what if we want to compute P(will win lottery) directly? Or, if you think we shouldn't try to compute it directly, but should do it in this roundabout way, then we need a method for deciding when this indirect method is necessary. (Meta point: I think you might be stopping at the first good answer.)

Comment author: RobinZ 19 January 2010 03:22:52AM *  0 points [-]

The parallel calculation would be

P(L) = p * P_calculated + (1-p) * P_typical

I don't put P_typical very high.

Meta point: I think you might be stopping at the first good answer.

Okay, I'll grant you that one. I'm still promoting my original idea to a top-level post.

Edit: ...in part because I would like more eyes to see it and provide feedback - I would love to know if it has some interesting faults.

Edit: Here it is.