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34 Post author: komponisto 18 January 2010 09:51AM

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Comment author: komponisto 18 January 2010 12:32:08PM 0 points [-]

I've addressed the relationship between legal and Bayesian reasoning here.

In general, I think we should keep discussion of the Knox case to the post dedicated to that subject. Here I'll just note that the meme about Knox being a "liar" derives from the allegation of "changing stories", which is an uninformed misconception.

Comment author: Kevin 20 January 2010 10:35:44AM *  0 points [-]

On applying the word liar, I wasn't intending to allude to an existing meme.

First, she was found guilty of trying to implicate Patrick Lumumba in the murder. I understand she did it during duress. I'm not sure if "told during duress" changes when we can apply the word liar, but I agree that liar is a charged word.

Second, I mean that I am positive she has told at least one lie while on the witness stand. There are many aspects of the defense's story that don't quite make sense. They, like the prosecution, are making up stories about what exactly happened to Merideth Kutcher that night. Also, in Italian court, defendants are legally allowed to lie on the witness stand; she was not expected to tell nothing but the truth during the trial.

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 10:53:55AM *  1 point [-]

Can we please keep discussion of this particular court case in the relevant thread? We really don't need the politics of near mode 'justice' spreading too much into loosely related topics.

Comment author: Kevin 20 January 2010 11:03:24AM *  1 point [-]

I was actually going to post about this in the meta-thread until I saw your reply, but I think orthonormal's statement "I don't think this actually came up there" applies for the most part. Let's please not meta-discuss outside of the meta-thread. I would however be fine if a moderator could move this entire thread to the Amanda Knox post, but I don't think that's possible.

Edit: Also, discussing why the prosecution and jury and judge believed Knox and Solecito guilty with absolute certainty seems relevant.

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 12:05:35PM 1 point [-]

Let's please not meta-discuss outside of the meta-thread.

A single request is just a polite alternative (and precursor) to systematic downvoting.

Comment author: komponisto 20 January 2010 02:10:06PM 1 point [-]

Reply here.