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Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 10:12:45AM *  5 points [-]

they probably instinctively appear much less "person-like" or "likely to become a human" even if the mother sees one while doing a crude abortion on her own - maybe even for an evolutionary reason - so that she wouldn't be left with a memory of killing something that looks like a human.

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How can a LWer even think this way? I suggest you reread this. I'm tempted to ask you to think 4 minutes by the physical clock about this, but I'll rather just spell it out.

Lets say you are 8 months pregnant in the early stone age. What is a better idea for you, fitness wise, wait another month to terminate reproduction attempt or try to do it right now?

I'm even tempted to say there is a reason women kill their own children more often than men.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 January 2012 10:31:15AM 5 points [-]

I'm even tempted to say there is a reason women kill their own children more often than men.

Higher expected future resource investment per allelle carried?

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 10:43:00AM *  4 points [-]

More or less. I'm pretty sure that controlling for certainty of the child being "yours" and time spent with them, men would on average find killing their children a greater psychological burden in the long run than women.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 January 2012 10:53:00AM 1 point [-]

More or less. I'm pretty sure that controlling for certainty of the child being "yours" and time spent with them, men would on average find killing their children a greater psychological burden in the long run than women.

Because after all that time spent with them some start to find them really damn annoying?

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 11:04:40AM 4 points [-]

We get attached to children and lovers with exposure due to oxytocin. Only when the natural switches for releasing it are shut off does exposure cease to have this effect.

Finding them annoying is a separate effect.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 January 2012 02:03:03PM 1 point [-]

We get attached to children and lovers with exposure due to oxytocin. Only when the natural switches for releasing it are shut off does exposure cease to have this effect.

I'm trying to relate this to your theory that men find it harder to kill their infants than women do. The influence of oxytocin discourages killing of those you are attached to and mothers get more of this than fathers if for no other reason than a crap load getting released during childbirth.