Multiheaded comments on Welcome to Less Wrong! (2012) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Multiheaded 05 June 2012 05:52:12AM *  0 points [-]

Slavery stops happening when it becomes more cost-effective to pay the workers directly, than to pay guards to coerce them.

Hell no, it does not; only the label might change. If the only employers are would-be slavers with no financial, public or moral pressure to look to their workers' welfare, then wage slavery is little better than traditional slavery - in fact it's often worse because a capitalist employer, unlike a slaver, has zero investment in a slave, drawing from a huge pool of unskilled manpower with no acquisition cost. You don't need any guards if a person has no choice but work for you, work for another employer like you or starve!

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Comment author: Strange7 05 June 2012 07:37:36AM 2 points [-]

I said "slavery stops," not "quality of life improves." Getting employers to compete in a way that benefits workers is a different problem, and obtaining for the workers the freedom to choose to starve (rather than, say, being executed as an example to others) is only the first step.

Quality of life for workers is also a very different problem from quality of life for open-market-adopted children, which was the original topic.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 June 2012 07:08:58AM 0 points [-]

Link broken.

Comment author: Multiheaded 05 June 2012 07:13:42AM 0 points [-]

Better now?

Comment author: Strange7 05 June 2012 07:31:47AM 0 points [-]

no, still broken.

Comment author: Multiheaded 05 June 2012 07:37:00AM *  0 points [-]

Changed the URL.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 June 2012 07:35:36AM 0 points [-]

It works for me.