wedrifid comments on How to deal with someone in a LessWrong meeting being creepy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 09 September 2012 04:38:43AM *  30 points [-]

My request that you not reply to my comments was not, and never became, an invitation for replies to my comments.

Alicorn's request for SilasBarta to not reply to her comments was not, and never became, an obligation for him to not speak up when Alicorn says things that he opposes.

Replying to a comment on a forum is not the same as approaching someone in person to engage in conversation. It is, fittingly, like responding to a public speech at the forum. Accordingly, the right to reply to Alicorn's comments isn't something that requires her 'invitation'. She does not have the right to speak whatever she wishes and demand that someone in particular who disagrees with her may not reply. (Except, I suppose, in the technical sense whereby she could in principle abuse her moderation powers to prevent someone replying for any reason she chose.)

This particular play for status and control over SilasBarta should be rejected and crushed mercilessly. SilasBarta's comment isn't personal in nature and so does not represent the kind of social approach that fits with the subject of this thread and doesn't get the same treatment.

The solution to not wanting to see replies by a specific individual is an ignore feature and that is one we really need here. There are plenty of people I whose comments I don't want to see and as a bonus that which is not seen can not be fed.

Comment author: komponisto 12 September 2012 05:50:59AM *  4 points [-]

Also, the grandparent is disingenuous. Presumably, Silas assumed that the request had simply expired, not that it had morphed into a different kind of request.

...as did I, frankly. I'm now commenting here after seeing this and thinking, "Oh, no, please don't let this be about....that!", and then finding, to my utter horror, that it was indeed about that.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 09 September 2012 02:54:10PM -2 points [-]

My request that you not reply to my comments was not, and never became, an invitation for replies to my comments.

Alicorn's request for SilasBarta to not reply to her comments was not, and never became, an obligation for him to not speak up when Alicorn says things that he opposes.

Alicorn's request was exactly that. What else could the words possibly mean?

I agree that an "ignore" feature would be very valuable for this site.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 September 2012 03:03:58PM *  8 points [-]

Alicorn's request was exactly that.

A request is not exactly an obligation. If you disagree, I request that you give me all your money.

What else could the words possibly mean?

I think my words above mean that I have uttered an unreasonable request that someone with healthy boundaries would ignore.

(Note that even if you happen to believe people have the particular rights of control over others that Alicorn has claimed your reply here would still seem to be confusing the nature of the relationship between verbal symbols and obligation.)