TimS comments on Open Thread, January 1-15, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TimS 02 January 2013 02:31:54AM 8 points [-]

What exactly is the function of the Rationality Quotes threads? They seem like nothing more that a litmus test for local orthodoxy.

Comment author: Alicorn 02 January 2013 03:40:52AM 6 points [-]

They are repositories for quotes that resonate with and/or amuse us. It might be a little too easy to get karma that way, admittedly, but I think they are nice to have around.

Comment author: TimS 02 January 2013 03:50:06AM 4 points [-]

Sources of karma don't bother me. It just seems like the standards for voting in that thread - both comments and replies - is really different than the rest of the site. Not looser, but different.

It seems like I'm always surprised but the vote totals there - both upvotes and downvotes, when I think I have a feel for what folks like in the rest of the site.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 02 January 2013 04:06:32AM 2 points [-]

What exactly is the function of the Rationality Quotes threads? They seem like nothing more that a litmus test for local orthodoxy.

One of their functions is to act as a kind of litmus test for local orthodoxy.

Comment author: TimS 02 January 2013 09:42:47PM 0 points [-]

This is local orthodoxy?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 03 January 2013 05:30:48AM 0 points [-]

"X is a good test for Y" does not imply "every part of X reflects Y."

Comment author: TimS 03 January 2013 05:39:18AM 0 points [-]

I don't think you and Jayson are agreeing.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 January 2013 02:24:54PM 1 point [-]

I don't think it's a test for orthodoxy. Take the quote: "To see is to forget the name of the thing one sees.” ― Paul Valéry with 13 upvotes while I write it.

The position that gets articulated in that quote isn't orthodox on LessWrong. There are a bunch of quotes that are interesting instead of just making an orthodox point.

Comment author: TimS 04 January 2013 02:54:58PM 0 points [-]

I don't think that quote is irrational, for basically the reasons TheOtherDave said.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 January 2013 03:31:27PM *  1 point [-]

I didn't claim that it's irrational. I claim that it's not orthodox rationality.

Take a quote that makes a more orthodox point: "The social sciences are largely hokum." --Sheldon Cooper

That quote is voted -2. That quote makes a point in which many members of the community believe but it doesn't make that point in a way that's interesting.

Comment author: TimS 04 January 2013 07:04:19PM 0 points [-]

I think your original quote is rational, as this community defines the term. I think the Big Bang Theory quote is not rational - in part because of denotative implications.

I think Jabberslythe is probably right when he says the purpose is celebrating in-group feelings. I'm not sure I approve of that purpose.

Comment author: Jabberslythe 04 January 2013 04:42:59AM *  0 points [-]

They trigger the ingroup fuzzies really well for me. I think quotes inspire me as well sometimes and it's otherwise hard to find quotes that inspire in the right direction.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 03 January 2013 04:53:29AM *  0 points [-]

The purpose is clearly articulated in the first one.

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Comment author: TimS 03 January 2013 05:36:54AM 0 points [-]

I'll be moving to Redwood City, CA in a week, so forgive me if I don't get a regular post out every day between now and then. As a substitute offering, some items from my (offline) quotesfile

Now I'm really confused.