timtyler comments on Open Thread, April 15-30, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 22 April 2013 10:49:31AM *  -2 points [-]

That's trivializing the issue. The idea is that maximisers can often be repurposed to help other agents (via trade, slavery etc).

It sounds as though you originally meant to ask a different question. You can now see how maximizing entropy would be useful, but want to know what advantages it has over other approaches.

The main advantage I am aware of associated with maximizing entropy is one of efficiency. If you maximize something else (say carbon atoms), you try and leave something behind. By contrast, an entropy maximizer would use carbon atoms as fuel. In a competition, the entropy maximizer would come out on top - all else being equal.

It's also a pure and abstract type of maximisation that mirrors what happens in natural systems. Maybe it has been studied more.

Comment author: gwern 22 April 2013 04:37:53PM 0 points [-]

It sounds as though you originally meant to ask a different question. You can now see how maximizing entropy would be useful,

I already saw how it could be useful in a handful of limited situations - that's why I brought up the Go example in the first place!

but want to know what advantages it has over other approaches.

As it stands, it sounds like a limited heuristic and the claims about intelligence grossly exaggerated.