shminux comments on Humans are utility monsters - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 18 August 2013 04:29:46PM *  3 points [-]

I am mildly consequentialist, but not a utilitarian (and not in the closet about it, unlike many pretend-utilitarians here), precisely because any utilitarianism runs into a repugnant conclusion of one form or another. That said, it seems that the utility-monster type RC is addressed by negative utilitarians, who emphasize reduction in suffering over maximizing pleasure.

Comment author: novalis 19 August 2013 06:29:35AM 2 points [-]

Isn't there an equivalent negative utility monster, who is really in a ferociously large amount of pain right now?

Comment author: shminux 19 August 2013 04:07:56PM 1 point [-]

Killing it reduces the overall suffering, since its quality of life is well below the "barely worth living" level, with no hope of improvement.

Comment author: DanielLC 23 August 2013 02:38:30AM 4 points [-]

What if it can't be easily killed?

Comment author: novalis 20 August 2013 04:42:40AM 0 points [-]

That doesn't work for preference utilitarians (it would strongly prefer to remain alive).