Lumifer comments on Dark Arts of Rationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 17 January 2014 03:16:15AM *  0 points [-]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15308499

This seems controversial, see e.g. http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/289/3/R902

P.S. Thanks for the link. That was an entertaining paper to read with authors going on "No, stop saying this, dumbasses, it doesn't work like that" rants every few paragraphs :-) I am now willing to agree that saying "lactic acid causes acidosis" is technically incorrect. In practice, however, it remains the case that glycolysis leads to both acidosis and increase in the lactic acid concentration so there doesn't seem to be a need to change anything in how people train and exercise.

Comment author: passive_fist 17 January 2014 03:40:29AM *  0 points [-]

That article you linked is a personal letter to the editor of that journal, and as such is not an indicator of controversy. The authors of the original study defended their viewpoints: http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/289/3/R904

Obviously there was some debate but the defenders of lactic-acid acidosis never actually published results refuting that study, and indeed other studies that came after it all supported the hypothesis that lactic acid buildup does not contribute to muscle fatigue. For instance, this study carried out by freshmen, of all people: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19948679

Comment author: Lumifer 17 January 2014 03:48:32AM 0 points [-]

Interesting. The question, though, isn't whether the lactic acid causes muscle fatigue but whether it causes the characteristic "burning" sensation in the muscles.

Seems like I need to read up on this...

Comment author: passive_fist 17 January 2014 03:54:35AM 0 points [-]

The term 'fatigue' seems to be inconsistently used to sometimes refer to DOMS and sometimes to the, as you call it, 'burning' sensation in the muscles. However, in both studies I linked, it's being used to refer to the fatigue during and immediately after exercise, not DOMS.