lmm comments on Dark Arts of Rationality - Less Wrong
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LW already feels uncomfortably polarized with a clique of ridiculously high karma users at the top. I don't think giving additional power to the high-karma users is a good idea for the long term.
Huh. never noticed that. A clique? What an interesting perspective. How much karma do you mean? Or is it some subset of high karma users? For example, I happen to have just over 10k karma, does it make me a clique member? What about TheOtherDave, or Nancy? How do you tell if someone is in this clique? How does someone in the clique tell if she is?
Presumably you joined a while ago, when there weren't so many intimidating high-karma users around
Yes on all counts. You're clearly the cool kids here.
You see them talk like they know each other. You see them using specialized terms without giving any context because everybody knows that stuff already. You see their enormous, impossible karma totals and wonder if they've hacked the system somehow.
Dunno. It probably looks completely different from the other side. I'm just saying that's what it feels like (and this is bad for attracting new members), not that's what it's really like.
(nods) True enough.
That said, you're absolutely right that it looks completely different from "the other side."
What does it look like?
Well, for example, I'm as aware of the differences between me and shminux as I ever was. From my perspective (and from theirs, I suspect), we aren't nearly as homogenous as we apparently are from lmm's perspective.
I always assumed I'd get a black cloak and a silver mask in the mail once I break 10K and take the Mark of Bayes. Isn't that what happens?
We aren't supposed to talk about it.
For the record, I have also noticed this subset of LW users - I tend to think of them as "Big Names" - and:
You could ask the same of any clique;
It seems like these high-profile members are actually more diverse in their opinions than mere "regulars".
Of course, this is just my vague impression. And I doubt it's unique to LessWrong, or particularly worrying; it's just, y'know, some people are more active members of the community or however you want to phrase it.
(I've noticed similar "core" groups on other websites, it's probably either universal or a hallucination I project onto everything.)
Relevant link: The Tyranny of Structurelessness (which is mostly talking about real-life political groups, but still, much of it is relevant):
What if going beyond 1 vote cost karma - so you'd actually need to spend, not just apply, that karma?
I can't see people using it to the point where their karma-flow went negative, so I don't think it really helps. It's a less bad idea, but not I think a good one.