somervta comments on SciAm article about rationality corresponding only weakly with IQ - Less Wrong

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Comment author: somervta 29 December 2014 12:34:28AM 3 points [-]

The author also needs to work on his own rationality. The car example is just bad start to finish. You need a lot more information to even estimate net deaths from the car in question.

Which has nothing to do with the point being made.

Comment author: Jiro 29 December 2014 03:37:50AM 4 points [-]

Also, in the car example, the second version names the American car and says that it is 8 times as likely to injure another car's occupants as a typical family car. The readers would probably take this to mean "a typical American family car". Combined with the fact that the other car is named and that the reader knows that this named car is considered safe enough for American roads, this provides the information that a spread of 8 times is not dangerous. This information is absent when a German car is compared to an American car, especially when the German car is not named.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 30 December 2014 11:43:53PM 2 points [-]

Showing that they were sloppy even in their sloppiness.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 29 December 2014 01:26:49AM *  0 points [-]

He was trying to make a point about bias undermining rationality, and so was completely sloppy in asking a question that didn't have an answer determined by rationality.

Comment author: ChristianKl 30 December 2014 10:41:32PM 0 points [-]

The point isn't that the Yes/No answer is determined by rationality but that the nationality shouldn't matter. Do you think the nationality should matter?

Comment author: buybuydandavis 30 December 2014 11:34:52PM 0 points [-]

The point isn't that the Yes/No answer is determined by rationality

So ask a question not determined by rationality, then complain that dispositions other than a will to rationality and ability to execute rationally determine the answer?

I don't see that as accomplishing the intended end here, or any end, but making the author look extremely intellectually lazy, at best.

Do you think the nationality should matter?

Sure. Government action should be dependent on the nationality of the parties involved, with a particularly relevant distinction between foreign and domestic.

Of course, my answer isn't determined by rationality, but context, preferences, and a theory of government, among other things.