Edit: added a paragraph nearing the end
Usually the question is: "What is wrong with our society?", but I guess my gripe is that if you look at things with a System-lense, usually what you focus on is what has the most influence.
In other words, if our Planet would veer off course, it isn't really the fault of the Ants - even when they could have done more! The reason is bigger gravitational forces, or our Sun wanting some more space.
So, why would you blame a human being for something that seems to be governed by laws, forces and powers we A) don't fundamentally understand, B) can't fundamentally influence C) can't fundamentally change ?
I mean, from a human perspective, there are a lot of answers - Psychology, sociology, anthropology, evolutionary disciplines, religion - even transdisciplinary groups and projects. But again, you only answer the question from inside the box. If the box gives a certain output, and has specific constraints, why blame the Outputs for how the box works?
It makes more sense to me to assign fault at the level where the problem lies. If we dislike and abhor something, at which level does it arise?
A lot of expressions we use are filled with assumptions that are focused on our personal actions. Take murder, for example. Killing is bad, I agree, but is it the personal choice of the killer to enable murder, to make possible the possibility of dying? The pain, suffering, dread etc.? It is the Universe's Laws and principles that are allowing it and actively engaging in it (There are endless ways this Universe can and will kill us), is it not?
That is just one of numerous examples I can think of where I am questioning if by looking closely at an issue, it seems to be the direct consequence of a superintended principle we have 0 direct control over.
I mean, personal responsibility sounds nice, but if you really look at it - does it make any sense? Take genes, for example. They are based on millions of years of biological, and then even cultural evolution. That you have the 'ability' to see a different way than eating your fellow friend, and can see more gains in keeping them alive - is it really "Your" achievement? How many choices are really "Yours", and not the inexplicable results of processes that started millions of years before you were even consciously aware that you had a face and a body separate from the rest of the world?
Because if the problem is the Universe, wouldn't you have to fix its underlying Laws and principles if you wanted to fundamentally change anything? Because any other change would only be superficial, partial and temporary.
To also add that here, you can of course look at humans as 'Part' of the universe, and not separate. Different maybe, but not separate. Which is a relevant vein to delve into, if you have something. As I see it, there doesn't seem to be a reciprocally positive relationship between the Universe and our individual consciousness - which seems odd. If break-ups have taught me anything, it might seem that the Universe is still bitter we stole that god-damn apple.
On a separate note (Joke joke?)
And so It is that I am still looking for the Universe help-desk. If anyone knows the number, or how to contact them, please let me know. If I'm a beta-tester, I believe I should let them know that some things really, really, really don't seem to work that well.
Kindly,
Caerulea-Lawrence
Likewise, thanks for replying!
Yes, it seems that there's no one correct answer or Truth. Humans just have a tendency to unify things and to search for something to rely on. Those who don't trust themselves will look for something external which seems to back them up, like some politics, philosophy, religion or science which can help them believe in their own values. Even outside of science we seem to look for some one great unity, branding it "Love", "God", "Dao", "Unifying theory", etc.
The assumptions that we make about the very nature of the universe and of truth seem to be mere tendencies in human perception.
And you're correct, learning more is not necessarily bad, one will expand ones tool-box. But too much learning and most people will drown in unorganized knowledge. Another bad outcome is too much unification and need for consistency, for if you desperately try to solve all these paradoxes you get the empty set as a result. Two common outcomes seem to be spiritual weirdos and nihilistic logicians.
I do the same, yes. When I became more mature, I didn't destroy my immature part, I just became capable of being both. As you may be able to tell, I enjoy immaturity more than most.
But I think this approach is still insufficient. Learning everything relevant in our daily lives might be a sort of error, since we're overfitting ourselves to one culture, one set of social norms, one small sample of social relationships, and so on. But on the other hand, why not? If we align with a larger set of training data, I think it's likely to end up with a worse local result. You might be aware of this danger already, I just encounter a lot of people who deal with general issues at the level of society, as an escape from their person lives, or because their interests in life aren't aligned with themselves as individuals in society.
Perhaps I've spend too much time warning against certain things, instead of imparting useful knowledge. But in my own road of self-development, I've passed through these paradigms, and ended up with a local focus. It's not at the cost of the higher perspective at all, since internal improvement seems to radiate outwards.
I see an almost limitless amount of potential here, and believe that the "outside" approach might be mistaken, by which I mean that the core reasons for scientific and philosophical engagement is rooted in the personal. My way is not universal, of course. I think my approach is partly because the scientific side doesn't grab my attention enough, I need passion, faith, hope and other emotional aspects in order to engage with sufficient depth for neurogenesis and other changes to occur.
There may be a loss of harmony with specialization, but I find that living and being properly fired up requires deep engagement, and that one domain is sufficient. Not becoming great, but becoming a great [Something]. That increasing ones scope of thinking might be a cause of getting older, meant as losing ones youthful energy and confidence as it's gradually divided over a larger and larger area. That said, the right psychological "contradictions" will bring about excellent results. A man who has integrated both the masculine and the feminine will have the advantages of both.
If you engage in many different subjects in depth, that seems to me a sort of ADHD or general need for cognition, if not habit or the consumption of "insight porn". But I'll assume that you've already taken such worries into account.
I'd love to continue in DMs, but I might just ramble with a loose association to the topic at hand unless I have something to anchor me. And my personal interests won't necessarily overlap with yours, so if the conversation so far has been too distant from what you've been looking for, it might not be beneficial for you to continue in DMs. I'll let you decide, I'm quite easygoing