But of the hundreds of virtues I found, only six of them were on more than half of the lists
Taking a look at those 6, I wonder if it's possible to summarise further.
Maybe doesn't quite cover every facet of every virtue listed, but a lot of them seem to relate to either of the following:
(1) being reliable and authentic in your words and actions (towards others that manifests as honesty and fidelity - and towards yourself it manifests as courage, to not be steered to inauthentic behaviour by reason of fear)
(2) demonstrating care for people's welfare (towards others, that comes as compassion and consideration - towards yourself, as restraint from any harmful excess)
Scanning over the other less universal virtues, there are plenty there that could similarly be related (if possibly at a bit of a stretch) to either valuing Truth in the deep sense, or valuing the thing I'm failing to find a good word for - at the intersection of good outcomes, general welfare, and human flourishing.
The virtues of epistemic and instrumental rationality also come to mind.
It can be an interesting exercise to try to find patterns, regularity, structure, commonality among the virtues. I like your insight here.
When I tried to do this, I ended up categorizing virtues as those involving Temperament (e.g. initiative, independence, frugality, spontaneity), Social Virtues (e.g. kindness, honesty, generosity, leadership, wit), Character (e.g. humility, honor, benevolence, integrity), Attitude (e.g. hope, serenity, temperance, patience), and Intellectual Virtues (e.g. imagination, rationality, know-how, curiosity). Looking back at this, I think the Social and Intellectual virtues make sense as categories, but it's harder to distinguish Temperament / Character / Attitude from each other, so I don't know if that's as helpful.
https://atlas.mindmup.com/davidgross/virtues/index.html
This was an interesting read!
I consolidated various terms for very-similar virtues together, and created a spreadsheet where I could note which virtue-clusters had been promoted in which systems or by which philosophers.
That sounds awesome. can you share the spreadsheet?
P.S - I suggest you create a sequence for these posts. It will make it easier for people to read through, will let you edit the order of the posts if you want, will make it discoverable through the library, and make it easy to link to.
The spreadsheet is a LibreOffice doc I could send you if you're interested.
Thanks for the idea of making a sequence out of these. Here it is: Notes on Virtues
The spreadsheet is a LibreOffice doc I could send you if you're interested.
Yes please! :)
Do you need my email or something?
I am impatient, so shoot me, but would be delighted if you could post your always-valuable Notes on the candidate-virtue of poise. You listed it in your scary list of 88 candidates, but offered only a teasing list of potential synonyms/neighbors -- "confidence, grace, unflappability, authority, gravitas, refinement". While these offer insight into the ways in which we identify poise in another, I wonder if the term deserves a broader approach, especially if it is to join the Pantheon of other bona fide virtues. My own conception of poise is perhaps captured by the image of the raptor, high above its prey (or hoped-for prey, anyway), at almost stalling-stillness, ready to swoop, waiting for some internal or external cue that signals now, do it now. Balance, readiness, attention and resolve combine in ways that can potentially contribute to the purpose-driven agency that we understand as flourishing. In your Notes on Resolve, you offered a seven-point schema for taking action. I am inclined to suggest that a state of poise, if indeed it can be understood as a state, squeezes in somewhere between 3 Weigh the case for different options and 4 Make a decision. Meanwhile, I shall re-read your Notes on Patience and Forbearance, and hope that your thoughts on poise will emerge at some time!
For rather too many years, I have been slogging away at my own attempt to identify the virtues and then derive from them the actual duties, the specific actions, that we must carry out in order to warrant the adjective "virtuous". Once upon a time, I might have argued that because I am beavering away here at the end of the world (Tasmania), I can be excused for not knowing about your contributions on the subject, indeed about LessWrong. These days, that excuse seems just plain silly, an attempt to cover up a failure of scholarship.
Either way, I am enormously grateful for your posts. My initial focus had been on Andre Comte-Sponville's "A Short Treatise on the Great Virtues", which I highly recommend to those interested in the subject (unless you have an allergic reaction to the use of the Oxford comma, in which case please spare yourself the agony). ACS managed to offer just 18 virtues, daunting enough for someone like me trying to translate them into duty-injunctions but still leaving me adding my own candidates for the virtue Pantheon. Finding this Gross guy and his (still evolving, still growing) list of some 88 candidates was simultaneously exciting and flattening.
My first reaction was that surely many of your suggestions would neatly fold into other higher-order virtues--that the final collapsed list wouldn't be anything like as terrifying. Nope. Didn't happen. Yes, there are overlaps, as there are across all virtues, it seems to me. But no, when I posed the (to me) crucial question "are these strengths/excellences critical for human flourishing?", I wasn't able to discard a single one.
Anyway, I sincerely hope that you do continue posting your emerging thoughts. I will be trying to harness a bit of that courage stuff in order that I add my own posts in virtues generally and on some of the specifics arising from your notes. Thank you again.
Hi David, is the notes on virtues sequence still ongoing?
I like the idea of the Society of the Free and Easy, but the fact that the program began to dwindle after a while does give me pause from a 'will it work for me?' perspective.
I've been in a long pause on adding to the sequence, although I've been quietly updating some of the existing pages behind-the-scenes. I hope to pick up the pace again at some point.
As for the floundering of SotF&E... I still think it's a good model, but getting something like that off the ground is hard work and requires that a lot of things go right. For one thing, it takes a critical mass of people who believe in the promise of it enough to put in the work; it's not something people can absorb passively. It's hard to find enough people who are willing both to stretch out of their comfort zones and to take time out of their already busy days to dedicate to an unproven eccentric project like this. When the early-covid isolation/quarantine stuff hit it really took the wind out of the sails of social projects like SotF&E, and I haven't felt confident enough to try to restart it.
I hope you do too. One of my aims this year is to try 'intentional virtue training', and your sequence has been an impetus, although I've only skimmed certain parts so I intend to read them more thoroughly later. I'm not sure whether I should try Ben Franklin's approach or SotF&E's; the former strikes me as somewhat harsher, but I have a hunch (empirically unsupported aside from my own confounder-laden upbringing) that the harshness is a feature not a bug for a certain sort of person, including me, so I'm leaning towards that.
Summary: The Notes on Virtues sequence shares my research into various virtues. This introductory post explains why I’m on this case and what I’m trying to accomplish.
I think the key to being a better, more satisfied, and more effective person is to become more skillful and well-rounded in the practice of the virtues.[2] Alas, childhood training in the virtues is haphazard, and remedial training (or self-help) as adults is also spotty. I hope to help fix this by assembling information about the various virtues, with a focus on practical ways we can improve in them.
Why I think this is important
Life is complex. We are constantly confronted by a variety of challenges. To address them well, we need to have learned a variety of basic life skills such that they are second-nature to us. “The virtues” are a set of such skills that apply to challenges common to typical human lives.
If you have a better command of the virtues, this helps you thrive as an individual and also improves your effect on those around you. Society at large benefits from a higher level of competence in the virtues of those in it. But our culture is not good at teaching or encouraging the virtues.
Our institutions of formal childhood education are patchy at best. You’ll get your reading, writing, and ’rithmetic, if you’re lucky anyway, but will you get resourcefulness, resilience, restraint, responsibility, rectification, or reputability? Other institutions (scouting, religion, etc.) pick up some of the slack, but not nearly enough. Parents have little guidance on how to convey virtue to their children effectively, and also have their own blind spots from their own spotty educations. There have been some gestures toward formal “character education” of children, which is probably a good sign. But my guess is that children will learn most from the example of their elders: if we don’t value virtues enough to pursue them in our own lives, that will make more of an impression on the up-and-coming generation than any “do as we say, not as we do” education will.
A virtue gym?
For a few virtues or skills, there are adult education / training / exercise programs. If you want to be more fit, you can join a gym. If you want to be a better public speaker, you can join Toastmasters. If you want to sober up, you can attend Alcoholics Anonymous. But for most virtues, there’s nothing like this, and that’s a shame.
Two misconceptions that sometimes cause people to give up too early on developing virtues are:
I think it’s more accurate to think of a virtue as a skill like any other. Like juggling, it might be hard at first, it might come easier to some people than others, but almost anyone can learn to do it if they’re just willing to put in the persistent practice.
We are creatures of habit: We create ourselves by what we practice. If we adopt habits without giving them much consideration, we risk becoming what we never intended to be. If instead we deliberate carefully about what habits we want to cultivate, and then actually put in the work, we can become the sculptors of our own characters.
What if there were some institution like a “virtue gymnasium” through which you could work on virtues alongside others, learning at your own pace, and building a library of wisdom about how to go about it most productively? What if there were something like Toastmasters, or Alcoholics Anonymous, or the YMCA but for all of the virtues people need?
Ben Franklin’s experiment
One day Benjamin Franklin “conceiv’d the bold and arduous project of arriving at moral perfection.”[4] He explains in his autobiography, “as I knew, or thought I knew, what was right and wrong, I did not see why I might not always do the one and avoid the other.”
He quickly found that he had underestimated the task. “While my care was employ’d in guarding against one fault, I was often surprised by another; habit took the advantage of inattention; inclination was sometimes too strong for reason. I concluded, at length, that the mere speculative conviction that it was our interest to be completely virtuous, was not sufficient to prevent our slipping; and that the contrary habits must be broken, and good ones acquired and established, before we can have any dependence on a steady, uniform rectitude of conduct.”
So he decided to be more methodical. He reviewed various lists of virtues in the literature he was familiar with, and created his own list of a dozen virtues that he thought were particularly important. To make each of these virtues habitual, he decided to tackle them one-at-a-time, starting with ones he thought would help him more easily acquire the others. (Virtues have a way of building on each other. Some virtues, for example persistence, or curiosity, or self-respect, make other virtues easier to acquire.)
He created a daily accounting of each virtue he was practicing. He carried a notebook with a table for each week. The table had one column for each day of the week, and one row for each of his virtues. Each time he failed to fulfill a particular virtue on a certain day, he marked the table cell for that virtue/day with “a little black spot” (or more than one if he screwed up multiple times). His plan was that when he achieved a week in which he successfully kept the row for Temperance blank, he would move on to concentrating on Silence (attending to Temperance as well). When he managed to keep both of those rows clear for a week, he would move on to Order, and so on.
“I was surpris’d to find myself so much fuller of faults than I had imagined; but I had the satisfaction of seeing them diminish.” He carried his notebook for several years. “[T]ho’ I never arrived at the perfection I had been so ambitious of obtaining, but fell far short of it, yet I was, by the endeavour, a better and a happier man than I otherwise should have been…”
He hoped at one point to write a book, The Art of Virtue, which “would have shown the means and manner of obtaining virtue, which would have distinguished it from the mere exhortation to be good that does not instruct and indicate the means.”
He toyed with the idea of a political party that would not advocate for the benefit of a certain segment of the people, but for the good of the country and of mankind in general: the “United Party for Virtue.” This morphed into an idea for a fraternity: the “Society of the Free and Easy.” His plan was to initiate members by putting them through the same practice he had undergone with his notebook of weeks and virtues. He explained the name of the society this way:
He got as far as getting two young men to sign up and begin the work, but then he got distracted with other things and abandoned the project. “[T]ho’ I am still of opinion that it was a practicable scheme, and might have been very useful...”
The Society of the Free & Easy
Last year I set about trying to pull together something like Franklin’s Society of the Free and Easy (and borrowing his name). I worked with a group of friends and acquaintances to come up with what I think is a pretty good framework for working on virtues in a peer-supported way. In a nutshell, the process is pretty simple:
Alas, after some initial promise, the group began to dwindle, and then the pandemic disrupted everything, and now the group is defunct. But in the course of researching, we dug up a lot of information about virtues in general and about particular virtues, and that’s forming the basis for the posts I’m sharing here.
Notes on virtues
I hope in these notes on virtues to collect ideas that will be useful to people who want to improve in a certain virtue. This may include concrete advice about strengthening that virtue itself, and also some discussion about other virtues that are related in some way: maybe they’re prerequisites, or harmonize in some way, or maybe there’s some tension between them.
I sometimes find it challenging to define the virtue precisely, or to distinguish it from another virtue—and sometimes the term for the virtue gets overloaded with a variety of meanings in common use—so I include discussion of those nuances too.
I’m aiming to be inclusive of a variety of useful perspectives, and of a variety of cultures, rather than to be definitive or dogmatic. It’s a fuzzy subject matter. I’m feeling my way about, leaning on existing guides when I can find them (though I tend to find more examples of people praising or advocating certain virtues than of people explaining them or giving practical advice on how to go about improving in them).
I take some inspiration from Aristotle, who, when he examined a set of virtues in his Nicomachean Ethics, started with virtue-concepts as already found in common language and folktale, rather than starting from a theoretical foundation and building ideal virtues from there. When it comes to dividing up a complex subject matter into manageable and coherent chunks, previous generations have already done a lot of the work for us and handed that down to us in the language and tropes we use. That we have found a word or trope useful is a good clue that there’s some reasonably-helpful and worth-noticing regularity at the base of it. While this sort of understanding shouldn’t be confused with the gospel truth of how reality is constituted, it seems wise to glean as much as we can from it before trying to systematize more deliberately.
One of the things I did was to investigate several virtue-based traditions (the Greek cardinal virtues, the traditional Christian virtues, the virtues of Bushido, Confucian virtues, the virtues of Scouting, the West Point virtues, the pāramitās and other Buddhist virtues, the Teachings of the Seven Grandfathers), the virtues favored by some particular philosophers (Aristotle, Cicero, Ben Franklin, Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, Baruch Spinoza, Henry David Thoreau, Shannon Vallor, the Cynic philosophers, the developers of care ethics, William De Witt Hyde, Eliezer Yudkowsky), virtues highlighted by the Jubilee Center for Character and Virtues, and the virtues identified as “character strengths” by psychologists operating in the positive psychology paradigm. This isn’t comprehensive by any means, but it was revealing.
For one thing, there was a lot less consensus than I expected about which virtues are the important ones. This is complicated by problems of terminology. For example, what one philosopher will call self-control, another will call continence, another restraint, another discipline. Or, while Paul says that the greatest virtue is love,[6] he defines “love” in such a way[7] that it incorporates patience, kindness, mudita, modesty, humility, respect, good temper, forgiveness, righteousness, care, trust, hope, and perseverance.
For another, different cultures will partition virtue-space differently: sisu is only kind-of like perseverance; mudita is only kind-of like sympathy; nying je is only kind-of like compassion. This can be challenging when I try to interpret works in translation, in which the translator has chosen the closest equivalent English word, but a close reading reveals that the author meant something different from what English speakers typically mean by that word.
I tried to correct for things like these. I consolidated various terms for similar virtues together, and created a spreadsheet where I could note which virtue-clusters had been promoted in which systems or by which philosophers. But of the hundreds of virtues I found, only a dozen of them were on at least half of the lists:
Among the virtues that didn’t make that cut: prudence, industry/effort/enterprise/productiveness, harmony/balance/moderation, friendliness, rationality, humility, righteousness, civility/social responsibility, hope, perseverance, courtesy, generosity, creativity, cleanliness, mercy, forgiveness, wit, originality, calm, curiosity, hospitality, pride, or gratitude. Some lonely virtues like daring, assertiveness, spontaneity, and punctuality appeared on only one list. Other skills that are often popularly admired—like solidarity, engagement, charm, or intimacy—weren’t on any lists at all.
Some virtues are debatable. Selflessness, pride, altruism? The apostle Paul and Ayn Rand would disagree about what’s the virtue and what’s the vice. Virtues like chastity, obedience, and patriotism give some of us the willies.
I’m aiming to be inclusive and to eventually give some attention also to these less-prominent and more controversial virtues.
Why am I going to this trouble?
My hope is that, whichever virtue you’re hoping to improve, you’ll be able to get a head start with the research and write-ups I’ve done.
I’m also motivated by self-improvement. I’ve been working to deliberately improve some of these virtues in my life, and I hope to make that an ongoing project, so putting together these virtue-dossiers helps me to lay the groundwork for this.
If we manage to reboot the Society of the Free & Easy in the post-pandemic time, these may help us hit the ground running.
I also have vague ideas about this being a worthwhile political project. I’ve come to distrust talk of elections and revolutions and institutional reforms. I think the longer, harder, more subtle project of helping people improve is a more reliable path to a better future than trying to impose wise policies on them from on high. If people become braver, wiser, more just, and more honorable, public policy will follow their lead. If people become more cowardly, foolish, grasping, and disreputable, conniving politicians will lead them by the nose.
I’m sharing these at LessWrong in particular because I think LessWrong readers are especially likely to grok the usefulness of this project, and because I value the sort of insightful feedback people share here. Since I’m not an expert at any of the virtues I’m writing up, I’m slyly taking advantage of Cunningham’s Law[8] to correct my misunderstandings about them.
Note
This is an ongoing research project. Whenever I dig up information about a particular virtue that I think can usefully add to what I’ve written, I will go back and revise the page associated with that virtue. Or if you leave a comment about something that I’ve gotten wrong or something important I’ve neglected to mention, I’ll fix that. I think it’s more important for these pages to be useful than for them to be a fixed record of what I thought when I first wrote them.
Tentative Sequence Outline
What am I missing?[9]
Simone de Beauvoir, The Ethics of Ambiguity (1947)
While the theoretical discussion of “virtue ethics” interests me, it is not the aim of this sequence to argue the case for it. I think that regardless of whether one finds virtue models, deontological models, or consequentialist models to be the most sensible way of considering ethical questions, one will be best able to live up to the answers one derives from those considerations by putting effort into developing the virtues.
Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics Ⅱ.2
Benjamin Franklin, Autobiography, chapter 9 (“Plan for Attaining Moral Perfection”)
Iris Murdoch Metaphysics as a Guide to Morality (1992) p. 324
1 Corinthians 13:13 “And now faith, hope, and love remain, these three, and the greatest of these is love.”
1 Corinthians 13:4–7 “Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable; it keeps no record of wrongs; it does not rejoice in wrongdoing but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”
“The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer.” (Named after, but not formulated by, Ward Cunningham.)
Some maybes: charisma / charm, unpretentiousness, comforting/consoling, engagement/participation, intimacy, penitence/rectifcation, kinetic interaction (sport, dance, sex, massage, etc.), post-traumatic growth, recognition / honor / remembrance (of others), solidarity, conciliation / peacemaking / compromise / negotiation, adventurousness / daring, historical understanding, living-in-the-present / spontaneity / wildness, punctuality / time-management / promptness, reputation, ahimsa / nonviolence, follow-through, parenting, precision...