badger comments on When Truth Isn't Enough - Less Wrong

91 Post author: Yvain 22 March 2009 08:23PM

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Comment author: badger 22 March 2009 10:35:03PM *  20 points [-]

This is one of my favorite posts yet, but I'm not sure I understand your full chain of reasoning. I understand you to be arguing that we should only be affected by the denotational content of a statement, and ignore connotations as best we can. I entirely agree we shouldn't confuse the two, but I don't see how to go from that to your full conclusion. Is the danger of confusion so great it is worth giving up the extra expressiveness of connotation? I'd appreciate some clarification.

I really like the idea of an acronym, but I'd like one that can be used naturally as a verb. My best shot is "agree denotationally but oject connotatively", e.g I adboc that the rich party while the poor starve.

Comment author: Yvain 22 March 2009 10:55:12PM *  10 points [-]

I don't think we should eliminate connotations from the language, if that's what you're asking.

But in cases where we're trying to use X-Treme Rationality on things that have otherwise resisted debate, we have to use special techniques make the problem more tractable. And one such technique is positivist thinking and putting a big wall up between connotations and denotations.

I like your acronym.

Comment author: badger 22 March 2009 11:02:49PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the correction. This makes much more sense as a technique than a general principle.

Comment author: Yvain 22 March 2009 11:05:36PM 1 point [-]

Added your acronym to main post. Please do not doci. Adboc instead.

Comment author: Meni_Rosenfeld 25 July 2013 09:12:07PM 9 points [-]

I don't suppose it's possible to view the version history of the post, so can you state for posterity what "DOCI" used to stand for?